Mica is perhaps the most overpowered missile the game has ever seen. It is not affected by multipath, as it can track fine onto targets while both launcher and bogey are flying at around 20 meters over the ground, it is practically unnotchable 50 percent of the time, and the most important thing of it all: you cannot lock any other missile into it to intercept it on your way, not even up close and even if your TWS mode tags it out
If RNGesus is your only joker against MICA then any MICA platform shall see only other MICA platforms because otherwise unless it’s another eurocanard that has the performance to oomph amraams further, the rest of aircraft are practically incompetent. And to mods telling us to use active threads for discussing these topics and closing newly opened ones just to close said old topics too: stop necro-baiting as a way to track older posts by not doing your job of looking for yourself and leeching off users instead.
Only if fired from up high like every other radar missile
Notch window is the same is just the fov of missile that’s different which barely does anything being honest
50g missile being hard to intercept not surprising.
It is the best missile on the second best platform in the game so it is gonna be OP as hell which is why it’s pretty annoying, agreed. They ought to move Rafael up to 15.0 by it self really or just take away some of its features
Only if fired from up high like every other radar missile
And down low too, even some c5s do that black magic.
Notch window is the same is just the fov of missile that’s different which barely does anything being honest
How does notch window stay equal? You need no chaff to notch a 120, but you need chaff to notch a mica.
50g missile being hard to intercept not surprising.
When the missile is coming at you head on it’s pulling zero g’s, it’s simply unlockable because it has been coded to be so. The fun thing is: you can lock on an aim9m, which is tiny in comparison, and take it down with an amraam.
It is the best missile on the second best platform in the game so it is gonna be OP as hell which is why it’s pretty annoying, agreed. They ought to move Rafael up to 15.0 by it self really or just take away some of its features
15.0 is still gonna see 14.0-14,3. And now rafale is about to get almost a ton lighter. I only’d request it to be lockable. The fact that of all the missile variety in game it’s the only you can’t lock on speak volumes about how much bias France has. And now magic 2’s aren’t flareable from headon while their motor burns if you’s using afterburner. You have to cut afterburner, flare and zigzag in order to trick the missile to go into your heat signature, meet the flare instead and run away leaving it behind.
You can do chaff less notch for both in look down scenarios, look up is only when you need chaff. They both have same speed gate for their pd seekerhead is just fov that’s different
if you’re in an eurocanard with 17.0 performance yes you will have less trouble defeating them than something like a su30sm or a su27sm that has 13.0 performance at best.
The FOV of the missile doesn’t really do much, maybe it doesn’t see as much chaffs in lookup, but it’s probably not changing that much to its notch/chaff resistance. However, since it’s the fastest accelerating fox 3, it gets a pretty thin speed gate quicker than other missiles, hence why it’s probably somewhat harder to notch at like 5 to 10km compared to other missiles
5 percent more of thrust past mach 1, minimal. Su30 does not need “elevator authority”, it and all russian twinjets need their oswald number reworked. They’re too draggy the moment they lift their noses up. Also my god these “buffs” are minimal. They won’t positively impact it in a dogfight or in air RB, it is still going to be painfully slow and rafales are still going to radar jam their missiles. I kept challenging myself on thinking that rafales have ECM because that sounded stupid, but today just right now I launched an r77-1 (a super OP missile according to MICApologists) within 15 kilometers away onto a rafale coming head on towards me and at around 3km of altitude, and he still managed to make it turn aggressively to the opposite direction 1km away from impact. It always happens but never ever within missile range and without enemy notching. It’s absolutely preposterous.
not really? you can see the incoming illuminator never going actually perpendicular to the rafale’s trajectory. Unless the case is that aim120 seekers have a notching leverage of over 90 and below 90 degrees.
Second picture, plane is not that well in notch. Third picture he gets in the notch (he isn’t completely in the picture but he looks to be turning in it), last picture he changes direction in the notch (by pitching towards the ground), while missile continues IOG towards last known direction.
At close ranges you must not go perpendicular to notch, you need to go a bit more than 90°, somewhat getting away from the missile. I would not be able to give you exact figures but by feeling that Rafale is doing a very good notch. Kinda surprised he didn’t have to launch chaffs tho since missile is in a look up situation so it should have gone to normal track
Personally I don’t think it’s overpowered, having France in your team doesn’t mean win or as a enemy doesn’t mean defeat, MICA-EM excels in close ranges where most of the aerial engagements in War Thunder happens, compared to others R-77 (and variations), AIM-120 (and variations) which is better suitable to the level of medium-long ranges engagements in War Thunder.
Actually some times I just throw two or three MICA-EMs to make sure I get the kill either by the target using countermeasure before the launch or due to the distance and other scenarios like head-on engagements, thing is MICA-EM is mostly working just fine and others missiles alike don’t, at least it’s my perspective since still there are a lot to fix and add missing stuff for the missiles, including MICA-EM. Rafale C F3’s airframe also gives it a huge advantage, yet it’s limited speed ~1 400 Km/H, still highly maneuverable.
MICA does not have better Multipath resistance than any other missiles. Multipath is a global variable that is set for every single radar missiles in game to be at 50m. Any claim that firing MICA (horizontally) are dealing with Multipath better than other missiles is either disingenuous or actual Skill Issue
Edit : In fact, if we only consider flat launch MICA (and not firing in a way to deal with Multipath by having a vertical terminal approach), the MICA is overall weaker than other missiles to Multipath because it has a lower explosive max than other missiles, meaning that even partial Multipath can defeat MICA better than other harder hitting missiles. not that it actually has a big impact.
+mica has a smaller warhead compared to other fox 3 missiles and does not enjoy the directionnal warhead if i remember well.
So even less chance to hit even more a critical one.
I was in the process of writing an edit to my comment, but yes, it doesn’t have yet directional warhead (which is actually modeled in war thunder so it’s not an issue of a mechanic not existing)
