ok seems that they have this
this does look like a single stage motor yeah
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Yeah, we have this, plus primary sources on the overall deltaV of the motor. This allows to guesstimate a single stage booster pretty easily
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Lmao. I mean, sure, give it. It’s just gonna get shot down like any other missile.
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No, not until every other ARH has an equivalent missile seeker. Even then, I think the Aim-120Cs should be buffed first.
Your proposition is absurd and would ensure the MICA never gets correctly modeled even if AIM-120D-3, AIM-260, R-77M and more advanced missiles are added. You want to hinge the MICA’s fate to the AMRAAM’s, and that’s not acceptable just because Gaijin isn’t working on the AMRAAM.
No, I think that is perfectly acceptable. More than that actually
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Just to reiterate, even if AIM-120D-3/R-77M/PL-15 are added then you are against the MICA being fixed?
that entirely depends on how strong those missiles are
which we don’t know for sure yet
We should not get things changed based on pure theory
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Yeah no that’s absurd of a take. At a certain point it has to get modeled correctly.
Yeah, when it is reasonable to do so
Right now, we absolutely do not need MICA buffs, it still is the best missile in the game
I think you might be confusing things here. The above person said that even if other advanced missiles come, regardless of how they might perform, if AIM-120C isn’t fixed then MICA shouldn’t get fixed. Your position is agreeing with that?
I am against any changes done to the MICA while it’s still the best missile in the game
until other nations get a missile that can realistically justify MICA buffs, it should not be changed in any way
That is my opinion
I do not care too much about “realism”, this is a game. Balance is more important
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That is far from what you wrote before, perhaps you should have been more clear.
That is also an unreasonable take because it means that even if the 8x MICA loadout is worse than 12x R-77-1/R-77M or any other future loadouts, if each individual missile such as the MICA is better than any future missile addition, then you’re simply against any implementation of buffs even if they’re minor such as range additions.
we don’t have these yet
So changes aren’t needed yet
That’s besides the point, you literally stated loadouts don’t matter and the only determination to MICA changes is individual comparisons.
I don’t remember stating anything about loadouts
You don’t need to if you make a requirement such as this:
Based on this, even if other tech trees get better planes with better flight models, radars, countermeasures, and loadouts, if the MICA-EM is individually the better missile, you’re opposed to any changes.
Fine,
8X MICA on the Rafale airframe with AESA radar is a perfectly fine loadout. One of the strongest in the game when paired with that airframe
Overall this combination is practically 2nd best (beaten only by Su-30SM2) in the entire game.
This changes nothing as of now, it’s just an AIM-120C-5 with 30s more battery time
iirc this is the same situation as AIM-120D, the old variant with extra burn time. I have yet to hear of any changes done to the J-15’s countermeasure situation
Both of these things don’t affect the Rafale in any real significant way currently.
Why do we need changes
MICAs should be buffed, but not until other underperforming missiles are buffed as well. Ideally this would all happen at once in conjunction with a major rebalancing.
No, I just want other missiles to have equally good seekers, and not gatekeep that to the French.
They should all be fixed, but the MICA should stay at a lower priority.
