fair enough, i don’t play sim
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Unfortunate, UK-France joint missile programs make great missiles. I don’t know why they can’t still fund Meteor MLU with France and continue with their FASE program. Luckily Stratus program still seems to be alive.
i wonder if america is investing in ramjets with the LREW. aim260 was designed for stealth fighters, a ramjet missile would just be too ineffective for the weapon bays of the fighters. but on a non stealth platform such as the f15 or even f16 combined with DL on awacs could be a advantage of keeping 4th gen aircraft
Not sure I understand where this is coming from. The meteor is roughly the same size as the AIM120, and the air intakes aren’t taking a lot of space, unless you wanted to stack them on top of each other, which I think is already not the case for the AIM120
Meteor’s wingspan is like 600-700mm while AMRAAMs is like 480-520mm, according to google’s search Ai, if thats correct, its a BIG difference
wings on meteor can be cropped to fit in a bay
In any case the ramjet intakes don’t really have an impact on the wingspan, so Vizender isn’t wrong on this one i’d say
From what is currently known :
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Comet is the french interim solution - quick development on known tech - and most likely an enlarged MICA NG, you could see it as a modern 530D
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FASE will be done in cooperation, but only with 2 countries (France and UK). Meteor MLU could have been abandonned for several reasons : not future-proof enough against large eastern missiles, and necessarily requiring the 6 countries that developped meteor to be around the table, which could have taken some time, time there is not considering the current context
from the source shared by @Pvt_Wade : UK axes Meteor upgrade in favour of new FASE missile
(I’m not bri’ish, i hope this is a reliable source)
The decision also follows the memorandum of understanding signed by the UK and France on 1 April to conduct a 12-month joint study into a Meteor successor, a deliverable of the Lancaster House 2.0 treaty that will assess the future threat environment, identify candidate technologies and set a development roadmap, overseen by a new joint Complex Weapons Portfolio Office.
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Ayo, the Ramjet motor is capable of recharging the batteries on Meteor? Or they’re just conventional batteries with a considerably more duration than the average AMRAAM?
Looking at the 100km in 90s figure, for 200km it would be 3 minutes or more, for 250km 4 minutes or more, thats quite a long time for a missile thats not that big
Definitely not rechargeable (it would’ve been nice, though)
Battery time is likely to be around ~225 seconds (just under 4 mins; this is roughly ~25% more than AIM-120C-5’s battery time), maybe more to take into account the unpowered glide when it eventually runs out of fuel (for those 150+ km shots, for example)
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I don’t think it does run out of fuel. By reducing the throttle substantially for a marginal amount of thrust, you still get a decent drag reduction from the motor being active. And I think the missile is encoded to try and retain a short booster burn to be lethal at terminal.
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The ALARM missile had a maximum battery life of well over 5 minutes (something like 7.5 minutes IIRC), and it achieved that using late-1980s technology.
Granted ALARM is a bit bigger than Meteor, but with 20 odd years of technology improvements I expect Meteor could quite easily have a battery life of 5 minutes or more.
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Woah, now that makes sense to me the 250km+ range figures, thats a lot of time, so something as bigger as Stratus RS shouldnt be limited by battery life to reach ultra long range shots like 600km (not saying it has that range or anything like that, just that it wouldnt be limited by battery life)
Hm, totally different from the Kh-31 then. Should be quite the fun implementation for the devs. 😅
31 just goes nyoom. Meteor has option to go just a lil nyoom if needed.
Would have been fun for meteor to be the first test bed for ramjet modeling, but certain folk would be up in arms.
Why? Kh-31 predates the Meteor. It’d make much more sense for it to come before the Meteor, which would’ve had a slightly different modelling anyway
Because it would be fun to lob them at the yanks lol
31 is definitely the more sane choice, but I could have gone either way. It would never have happened, but if it did, would have made for an amusing period.
i think gaijin need to add more options for ramjet cruise logic in game, currently they only prioritize reaching the cruise speed before starting to throttle down, sometimes wasting too much fuel unnecessarily and running out before the final acceleration the meteor in known for, it’s interesting that the terminal ramjet acceleration is already a mechanic in game, but isn’t used in any of the kh-31s
If the ALARM could just lock onto planes we would would basically have a Meteor Missile in terms of range. (5g overload is a problem though)
It can get up to 3000km/h at 120,000m and can easily travel 100km.