Gaijin please if you’re not going to buff the Merkava Mk4’s armor, can you at least buff its shell so it can actually kill a tank from the 1980s? Like I’m not asking you to buff M338’s penetration value, can you just make it bypass Kontakt-5 (Or Relikt on the hull idk) without getting absorbed into some kind of black hole?
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Also the M428 Sword for other tanks in the game… similiar performance to m900… TAM 2C already uses this shell
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It’s kind of funny with ru era, I had my buddy shoot the relict on the upper plate of my t-90m point blank with the obj-292 and the relict eats it. It’s not a matter of really buffing rounds but adjusting the era as they tend to over perform especially on ru tanks
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I don’t think ERA is overperforming, some NATO rounds are deliberately gimped to the point where they can’t even defeat the armor they are designed to go through. Which is tbh just bullshit, especially after the UE sale 💀
And now I’ve to deal with spall eating autoloader, disappearing ammo, driver’s port gaijinning my shells, blah blah blah, whilst having armor that can be penned by DM33…
The round is fine in my opinion, it’s pretty much on par with it’s contemporaries. It is the armour of the Merkava that needs buffed, I think if that’s done it will be a competent tank at it’s BR. No common MBT in the game can really UFP a T-90M or T-80BVM, not with any level of realistic consistency anyway. As long as the shell is capable of what most other shells at the BR can do, which I find it does exceptionally well in it’s current state, it’s completely fine as is.
Something I like to do is use M322 instead, as it has far more spall at the cost of only ~20mm of pen.
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That’s funny, the Russian ERA works in an exceptional and exaggerated way, and the Western NERA is little more than an extra useless weight, this is balance and realism.
Just remember that the Mexas armor of the C1A2 should be able to stop the Soviet 30mm APDS at 0°, which means that it would have a resistance of around 90 to 100mm against kinetics.
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You mean anti ERA?
yeah, thing that should have in the game long ago not just this round
L27A1 DM53 also have these anti ERA
some say it unfair to Russia but that why Range matters the longer range the better they can block incoming round
No ERA shouldn’t be able to eat round like DM53 at the range like less than kilometer ERA it’s not some kind of magic block.
I wish M322 spalls like that, 5.6 kg only to have like 2 spalls that actually hit the ammo (not even detonating it which is bullshit)
I’m for that but Gaijin seems to think Western countries can’t develop anything good besides AMRAAM. Anyways this post is about another alternative for the doomed Merkava, I wish it could have good ammo and and good armor anyways.
I agree but most rounds seem to be quite gimped in some way, and from what I’ve experienced using ru tanks the era and autoloader definitely eat rounds in ways they shouldn’t. Not saying I’m good I prefer planes and I’m pretty bad in tanks tbh but being able to tank side shots like a 2A7 or 122B+ in my t-90 or my BVM, BVM of which doesn’t even have spall liner, kind of makes me think they are definitely over preforming. Also the ERA bags on the sides irl are not relict, I forget what they are called but it’s similar to what the bmp’s use
I think its about what sells the most, for western countries its the top tier planes, while for Russia its their top tier tanks, so both will stay the top dogs as long as they are what most of the players pay money to get to.
I seem to remember something about it being 4S22 (Kontakt-5) but I’m not sure.
Hey, thats a pretty random questions but I still gotta ask it, how Gaijin knows that Russian ERA is so good against KE shells? Or do they just assume that…? As far as I can see only Russia and China have ERA that’s effective against KE, all the others barely give 5-20mm against KE. I also dont see how can a single Kontact-5 ERA provide more KE armor than 500mm of Composite Armor, sounds like a cheat if you’ll ask me, but I ain’t an expert.
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Well, gaijin would have gotten it from Russian reports (propaganda?), or directly from his ass.
There are actually more ERA models with KE protection, like the French Brenus, with 100 protection with KE. Also a certain model of Romor armor has certain capabilities against KE. Also the Super Blazer (the ERA that the M60A1 passibe uses) has certain capabilities against KE. The problem is that there is no clear data on the level of protection of many western armors, so instead of gaijin using a little logic he decides to put those armors with the protection of tanks from the 70s. An example is a report I did years ago, in which I said that the Israeli Blazer armor should have a resistance of 400mm at 0° against CE, since in a Soviet report these data were collected with the tests of a Magach 3 captured by Syria, but they did not accept the report because they did not admit Soviet data for Western vehicles.
Gets worse when you realize that Israel’s armor should basically be what Russia’s is in-game.
Even if russian ERA actually has decent ke protection(like 50-100mm) it should not even close enough to eat an entire 600mm pen apfsds
Its just cheat code at that point
ERA is correct, shells aren’t. Properties such as anti-ERA and hardness are completely ignored, hence even K-5 would just eat it