I think it’s a big mistake to put the basket on the Merkava because, unlike the Leopard, the only good thing it had was its survivability. The Leopard has armor, it doesn’t matter if it has a basket. However, if the Merkava gets a basket, it will be even more useless than the Ariate because it has no armor at all. It’s heavy, and now, as the apfsds pass through the armor, will hit the basket 100% of the time and the tank will be immobilized. No survivability whatsoever.
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So its not wrong then
The basket is what it is.
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idc if it has basket it is unbalanced it will make merkava useless
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All modern AFVs turrets have “baskets”. You are barking at the wrong thing.
I think the basket modeling for the Merkava is incorrect. Does anyone else feel the same way?
I think it’s stretching too far upward.
I borrowed this image from someone on this forum.
The problem is not the basket, the problem is the “balance” Gaijin is doing. The problem here is some nations being able to aim and shoot while others need to rely on your perfectly caple teammates because you are not going to be able to aim and shoot (and most of the time move) for 40s+. And dont say the leopard has armor the only leopard that really has hull armor is the 2a7 and the strvs. If gaijin wants to balance at least make the horizontal aim speed slower when the basket is out.
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true i think is the best solution
I think the new models are good, they are better than the previous ones, and i dont think the basket addition is bad. I also think if they remodel the interior they should also remodel the exterior and give the merkava its real armor, which utilises explosives in the armor layers. Maybe its an indication of a change coming?
Should remove all the baskets and autoloaders, make the tank as empty as possible so we all can drive around and easily survive getting shot in the sides and still has chance to return fire. Having to sit a 40 seconds to repair every single time we get sneezed at is extremely annoying bro I don’t want a mosquito poop can simply slap us another 35 second repair time bro this is annoying
Lol nope, either everyone gets these modules or noone, we dont selectively nerf two MBT families with “muh realism” and then proceed to not implement this stuff for the rest of them on grounds of balance.
Yall cheered when Leo2s recieved baskets, and suddenly its problem when its YOURS tank that is supposed to get them.
Buzz off hypocrites.
To be honest, having a lot of modules make driving around sucks because the vehicle can no longer take a hit, now it encouraging passive play style because people will finally learn how driving around doing objective sucks as they would always lose to someone sitting at a corner waiting for them to drive past.
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Sure, i agree to an extent, but ultimately not the point im going for. I was entirely against addition of turret basket for only two MBT families at time when they first came around.
My point is that if people didnt want baskets to be added to their MBT family, they shouldnt have cheered when they were added.
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It simply shows that people are double standard lol either everyone having it or none have it. If the vehicle continue to suck then just make adjustment via br. Like some of the mbts doesn’t really belongs to 12.7 at all. Even in the same tree the 2A6 and 2A7 should be at least .3 apart or .7.
TBH this was kind of inevitable then they started modeling the autoloaders, having an 8 sec replacement time for a dead loader vs 40 second repair time for the autoloader was always going to result in nerfs to the manually loaded tanks to balance it out (although the basket nerf went far too far in the other direction) and too bad for the Japanese and French that now have BOTH to repair.
They really should have just adjusted the amount of damage it took to destroy the autoloaders and their repair time.
they are getting a basket too? ggs I´ll stop grinding the israel tt now imo
Still worth crewing the merkavas especially the 12.3s, they also have reverse gearbox so you can simply turn around to drive away from the enemies when your fcs is out. Two of the best players I’ve seen around here who are also an active forumers @IHаteCAS and pompousmagnus actually rated the Merkavas being top three best mbts. Why do their opinions more valuable than others? they having High KD, high KPS, high activity and also high win rate for the vehicles where such combination is only achieveable by the top 1%, it just prove that the mbt doesn’t suck, its the player who suck at playing it. Also their 8.7 has interesting vehicles like the Magach Hydra, literally strapped with two rocket pods that normally found on helicopters, and each rockets has the stopping power that is equivalent to the HEAT shell the BMP-1 is firing, not to mention their Magach variants are some of the best M60s without the stupid turtle shell mg turret to invite aphe/HE to get nuked, their 9.3 also have the best FCS with 12x gunner zoom and serviceable thermals sight, you’d be having a lot of fun with their line up at different brs.
That said, the basket seems to extend too far upward. I don’t think the part that extends upward has anything to do with the turret drive.
After the turret basket update we’ll have to wait till the merkavas winrate drop to the floor which is 6 months at the very least then wait for gaijin to realize that merkava has no hull protection whatsoever which will take a year
Top tier round can pen merkavas hull anywhere even ufp unlike other mbts that have turret basket
So either they module it’s irl armor or lower it’s BR
BTW i am a russian main but i started playing israel and i got my first nuke like the tanks but idk the russian vibe is better i want to return to play russia but the teams suck and i am afraid that with the new rounds nato will be enable to pen us front plate