We all wanted advanced modules.
With proper armor values, not some cardboard level of armor.
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Modules are being added without considering the armor, which is a proper way to do that.
Merkavas are already plenty good against threats they’re designed to stop.
Merkava’s armor also designed against KE munitions, there is report that includes significant details that proves how wrong the current armor is.
We already discussed it months ago, you should make research before any claim.
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This is equivalent to demanding that Ariete Tank must completely restore various modules without considering the gameplay.
This argument is so old and kinda a myth because it only takes into account half the picture. They are designed to handle the things they could possibly encounter, such as regular RPGs, yes. But they are also designed to counter their neighbors’ tech. Some of whom operate T-90s, Leclercs, Leos, Challenger 2s, and Abrams…
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If they can take the time to incredulously model internal modules, then they can add the 200~400mm of SLERA/Composite missing from around the tank
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True but thinking it should be able to stop 500mm+ rounds is just a fantasy.
Any source to back this up?
Cause bug report has sources that mentions that it was tested against bm42 and more modern rounds and results were complete stop without any damage.
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T-90Ms with 3BM46 right ?
Yemen has received donated barebones Leclercs that are decades old and fire baguettes instead of modern rounds.
Probably the biggest threat comes from Egypt with M1A1s and their decades old KE-W.
Over designing their armor to fight off non existing threats isn’t logical.
BM42 isn’t a modern round, but being safe against that seems reasonable as their neighbors are quite unlikely to muster up anything better.
Yes… and all of those rounds still make swiss cheese of the Merkavas. Just go into protection analysis and use the T-72 Turms 3BM42 against a Mk4. I know most of the middle has export tanks with worse rounds, but even those worse rounds are making mincemeat of the Merkavas.
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Judging how Israel has had some of the biggest and last tank battles in recent history, it’d more then make sense for their tanks to be able to counter whatever their advisories have.
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I’ve said BM42 and more Modern rounds not just Mango.
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Plus as a nation, they have shown an amazing capacity to learn from past mistakes, as seen with the colossal wars fought in the 60s and 70s, and more recent ones, the tech built after them has featured numerous features in order to remedy issues faced in said conflicts, and that would definitely include advanced armour protection for both chem and KE threats
The f15i got spice 2000s and the kfir c10 got spice 1000s btw
As anything over 500mm should.
Even RU doesn’t use BM60 often so their exports are probably stuck with BM46 at best or even BM42.
That’s the thing.
Most of their adversaries are frozen in time with 40-50 years old equipment.
It’s pretty obvious CE protection was paramount seeing all the basement-made RPGs thrown at them.
Have Merkavas 4s even faced an enemy tank in combat ?
Your entire narrative revolves around the assumption that israeli tank designers have such a huge superiority complex towards the threat of their neighbours, that they would completely neglect KE protection.
Look at how stupid that sounds lmao
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Trophy and other measures (like the ball n chains) were designed to counter said threats, alongside the creation of SLERA, however these are layered ontop of a chassis already adept at KE protection
You don’t get 80 tons of MBT without a colossal amount of armour in the mix
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