Well yea… It’s all BS, secretive technology…
All I do is to try to understand the man that is standing behind the vehicle to design it, and the man sitting inside.
All the rest is noise
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Mostly because of its almost non-existent strategic mobility. Which for Israel isn´t a big deal after all.
You’re confusing exports with deployment. Sure, the T-72 and Leopard have seen combat out of their own countries, but that’s not easy for them. The only country other than the US that can reliably ship its forces across the world within days is France.
Do you seriously think that those countries can still do that? European Tank readiness rates are extremely low.
Did you see how long it took to get a handful of them combat-ready and sent to Ukraine? Britain can barely field their tanks to begin with these days.
The K2 is in service with Poland.
That comparison doesn’t make any sense. The Merkava isn’t designed remotely close to the K2?
It would not change if that was a Russian crew or not.
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Siding with Alvis, who’s a known Troll, is not a great look, man.
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Let’s also remember Merkava’s armor should be easily stop Kornet missiles, and I’m talking about Merkava 3.
Merkava 4 has more improvements in terms of CE/KE protection, it suppose to stop modern rounds as well.
There are bug reports for it but Gaijin purposely ignoring them.
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Do not forget that all “modern” T series are just modified T72 at best, if rockets from Javelins and rpgs can disable them from the front they are definetely not the best at protecting, you could’ve notice the tendency to use “mangals” against these rockets and they have prooved some kind of effectiveness. Now take a glance at Merkava’s turret armor, it’s like a whole meter of composite materials
it was supposed to fight in urban conditions so it must be protected from all sides, the mobility is not so important at that scenario
Not the T80’s. Even tho they have similarity these are different chassis.
It can be said to all tanks amd merks are bulit in a way that the armor could be replaced easily
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Merkavas are fighting for 2 years now btw
@Just_Baron accusing everyone trying to fix Merkava of trolling…
Dude, just stop antagonizing people that want Merkava to be accurate.
Careful now, Just_Baron thinks you’re a troll for being on our side. XD
Im not?
I just said all tanks that get shot in the same area will lose its armor
Even leo turret armor
But unlike other mbts israel made merkava armor to be easily replaced so it can go back to the fight soon as possible cuz israel doesnt have alot of tanks so every unit counts
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In and out armor replacement is useful, and easily proven to be strong when done correctly.
Also you’re not for making sure Merkava is accurate? I was under the impression you were.
I do want merkava to be accurate but since we doesnt have documents gaijin needs to estimate things according to the tanks feats and read between the lines of articles and such
And ppl estimate things wrong cuz they saw some political tiktoker says merkava has been destroyed by yassin105
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You’re confusing exports with deployment. Sure, the T-72 and Leopard have seen combat out of their own countries, but that’s not easy for them. The only country other than the US that can reliably ship its forces across the world within days is France.
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These machines, are designed to be exported and excel in all terrains… and once a country buys a tank it’s more or less a done deal, sure you need NATO or russian type of ammo, but you can buy these everywhere. And some spare parts… But if you buy the merkava you tie yourself to israel as the material consumption of spare parts and armor modules will be greater, as it is the philosophy of the tank.
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Do you seriously think that those countries can still do that? European Tank readiness rates are extremely low.
Did you see how long it took to get a handful of them combat-ready and sent to Ukraine? Britain can barely field their tanks to begin with these days.
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Well if they are ready or not right now is a different subject… armies decay in peace time if not maintaind properly
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The K2 is in service with Poland.
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Didn’t know that
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That comparison doesn’t make any sense. The Merkava isn’t designed remotely close to the K2?
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It wasn’t a comparison, was just thinking out loud if korea is in a similar situation
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It would not change if that was a Russian crew or not.
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Probably not…
- Not sure about this comment of me siding with Alvis ? My ideas are my own
- How da hell this quotes supposed to work ?
The sad truth is that I think Gaijin is right… If you’ll implement true performance of merkava and NATO tank and also soviet tanks, modern tank game will die… Russian stuff/style is half of the vehicles…
So sadly we need some russian bias to keep the game moving
Yea… but right now it’s not fighting at the intensity it could if against another country with thousands of tanks… in this case the logistics load will skyrocket, as tanks gets damaged
What you said about how easy it is to be replace:
The difference is that you NEED to replace merkava’s module after a hit or 2 as the armor is designed to destroy it self to stop penetrators… ( it will probably work, but will start losing effectiveness)
Other mbt armor don’t need to be replaced after 2 hits they can withstand many more hits…
No tank can be good at everything…every one make compromises
I dont think so
In fact as i said merkava designed to be easily repaired
Which can be very good to a long therm war
U dont know its durability and there is diffrence between ce and ke
Until we have clear evidance we shouldnt assume anything
Sure it’s easy… but how many armor modules can you produce ? Ablnd how many can you deliver to the front line ?
It’s true I don’t know how the structure will hold against kinetics… But i believe it is designed to be sacrificed… it is less dense bulky and has explosives