Merkava 4 armor is long overdue to be buffed

Ca you direct me to some ? What to google, i have actually searched it

The Merkava, yes.

Not the Leopard 2A7V, M1A2 SEP v3, T-90M, Type 10, etc. etc.

Every nation claims they’ve got the best tank, doesn’t mean they do or that there even is such a thing.

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my guess is that it’s somewhere near Golan heights, where the Jordan river ends

The jordan river ends on the dead see but yea probably the golan

There is some intrview with a german general talking about it but idk where to find it
I will try to look for it
If ur in shiryon archives server in discord u can ask for things like

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Who ever claimed it’s the best tank ? It’s actually a bad tank by world standards, that’s why it’s design is not copied elsewhere.

But in terms of crew survivability and answering Israels needs it is the best.

It’s like the swedish S-tank. Was it the best in the world ? Hell no, was it the best in what it was meant to do ? Yea…

I’d think the T-84 Oplot M/2M is better than the Merkava at that task. (Crew protection). As the engine, if it goes it can be over. Especially with the lack of lower track protection, it’s APS doesn’t intercept darts (doesn’t need to as they haven’t ever fought modern MBTs at all, and seemingly don’t intend to), & lower hull side hits would be really bad. Not to say the rest of its armor isn’t good against Chemical. But repeated hits to similar areas doesn’t seem likely it would make it (seeing as how catastrophic the armor array peels and explodes apart).

If we could get sources down on this to get its armor at least mostly 3Bm42 immune? That would be nice. Me personally I just want its armor buffed for balancing reasons. If they can’t do that, at least buff trophy to give players reasoning to grind for something lol. Also change the Namers weight if not its armor it doesn’t make any logical sense (and I’m not great at math, so you know it’s bad).

Hm. That’s strange. I seem to remember the Rafale having a video used as a source to change its fuel weight in flight. That’s so strange.

Could you perhaps be wrong?

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I’m not really sure about that, if we are talking about just stoping penetrators from all directions… then maybe ? But Ukraine defence industry is not a well developed as Israel has less connection more isolated ecc… I would be surprised to see if they can squeeze higher protection levels than the Merkava. But anything can happen.

But main problem of the BM is that nasty, disgusting carrousel…how I hate seeing these russian dudes evaporate like this. Disgusting vehicle these soviet tanks. These tanks are relics of soviet philosophy that has no place in modern times.

*I’m gonna ignore the “they don’t intend to fight other tanks” as it will fire up my gastritis.

What exactly are you talking about here? The Merkava’s design is not replicated elsewhere because other countries designed their vehicles for different doctrines and restrictions. Israel’s territory doesn’t have bridge weight limitations that most NATO AFV and MBT try to stay within.

Furthermore, if the Merkava was a “Bad Tank” by world standards, why does it retain the best track record of all modern tanks in recent conflicts? Militant groups such as Hezbollah have weapons no different than those Russia uses, yet Israel’s Merkava tank remains nearly untouched despite fierce fighting.

The representation of the Merkava in War Thunder is an extreme distortion of truth, and those who believe “it was only designed to fight chemical threats” are deep within a common lie. Even when the Merkava Mk.4 was designed, Urban Combat was not the primary concern of IDF forces.

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It’s a bad tank not because it’s underperforming, or because it’s weak. It’s bad because of logistics. Israel is a small place, without any bridged… population is small cannot afford to have prolonged yearlong conflicts. They need fast wars. So the merkava is perfect for this as it protects the crew at all costs, just give them more tanks engine and they will fight.

Other countries are large or fight overseas… imagine of you not only needed to move an abrams 3000 km, but few more engines and armor modules for the turrets…you could have just brought another abrams !

Merkava is a strong tank, but a bad machine for long ww2 style wars where production is king

How exactly does a tank not being designed to travel across the world make it bad?

Israel doesn’t fight WW2-style wars. Even if they did and we somehow miraculously had Merkava tanks in fighting similar to Ukraine, they would still outperform other vehicles due to their design. While it is true that a tank modeled for easy production was good years ago, infantry weapons have made that completely impossible to work with now. The only tanks fit to survive drone warfare are those built like the Merkava.

Spreading myths is not helpful.
There was no Rafale bug report whose source was a video.
The sources were documents, and a photograph of the HUD was another item to substantiate the documents.

You admitted to lying. Sad.

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Good job lying lol.

The source of that “image” was a video from an airshow video.

Because most tank producing countries needs tanks that travel across the world… Israel is an anomaly. It’s a small country that only do defensive wars… usually this kinds of countries only buy tanks as they can’t make them by them selves…
So by force of majority merkava is a nich tank, and will not be suited for most wars.

As for what you say about drones… there are less drones in gaza… but yea I think that other MBT are starting to move in rhe dorection of the merkava with 360 degree protection… I believe that next generation tanks will have automatic autocannons or shutguns point to the sky

This is blatantly false. Very few countries can ship their forces to a distant country. Among European countries, only a handful can even do it.

Even if we take a tank like the T-72, which can be mass-produced and sent across the world, and compare it to Israel in an actual historical setting, Israel still won. When Merkava Mk.1 tanks faced off, admittedly uncommonly, against T-72 tanks, Israel found itself decisively victorious.

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But it’s not false… Abrams travel everywhere leopards are the most exported tank in the world half the world has them… t72 is also everywhere and also russia is …huuuggee.

By the way britain germany france all of them are bound by NATO pact to follow the USA basically in it’s adventures hah

Maybe the k2 is a tank that stays in one country…but also not as small as Israel. You could make a point of selling merkavas to south korea. But they already made their own tank.

Again it’s a strong tank, I’m not contesting that…
But to be honest Israeli tankers would have destroyed those T 72 even in magach. The syrians were outclassed in every aspect

At the end of the day there is export bias in life.
Things that are exported have to have more public information about them.

It’s a reality that can be stressful.

Actually one of the main reason why Israel won’t export the merkava… it’s actually very jealous of it… in comparison to other military tech that they sell to all

A piece of wisdom I learned from science.
“This is correct today, and it may be incorrect tomorrow.”

Many of my favorite vehicles are “correct” today [as according to all available information read prior to those vehicles release into the games I play]; it is probable that new information comes to prove them incorrect.

I could be annoyed, I could be livid, I could be stubborn in response to vehicles that I suspect or know are incorrect.

OR I could appreciate that I have the best, or among the best functional examples of said vehicles in software that I can enjoy right now.

And when I find a document proving my case, I’ll draft a bug report.
Until then, I will enjoy the vehicles; and I will support those that are actively looking for unrestricted documents.