don’t agree with the copy paste but the point still stands. the merks and Israel’s armored doctrine is highly inaccurate compared to real world facts. gaijin has stated that they won’t give it a higher armor density until a higher weight has been proven. which major sources have been given overtime, but they still don’t care because then it will hurt their beloved cash cow Russia. the aps hasn’t even been working in the last 8-9 months. but we will for sure get a working Russian aps without failure. absolute joke how this nations player base has been shut out of having a competent line up for it off the basis that gaijin just seems to know better than documented sources that are proven from countries. we can’t get accurate armor for a world renown tank known for its high focus of crew survivability. but without failure as I said we will get buffs to nonexistent missiles (KH38MT) that aren’t real and have legit sources given by things that actually have legit history be completely shut down because it’s not Russian, anybody notice the fact that Russia is the first for everything when in reality they were always in last and still are. #russian bias. prove me otherwise
What’s funny, is that there’s 400mm NERA composite on the left sponson that actually works and has ~1000mm KE protection. The whole front (as mentioned) should mostly be like that. The problem mostly lies in the armor modifier for “composite screen” armor type, which is lower than damn rubber.
Russian bias isn’t an issue here. We’re talking Merkava armor.
Russian bias is an issue here. We’re talking Merkava armor.
But just in terms of armour there is no doubt lecerlc and type 10s are inferior.
pay attention to the links, not the AI copypasta
I don’t think they care that much to spend even an hour looking at it. It’s pretty convenient if you can hide behind the “you have a source for that bro?” scheme. Sometimes theses sources just don’t exist and when sources don’t exist we can use common sense. And it should be common sense that the Merkava Mk. 4 doesn’t have the frontal kinetic protection of a 1980s machine.
The usual Gaijin way. The snail has been doing this for a long time. Whenever players complain they just say not enough sources. Even approved things didn’t get implemented such as spall liners for Chinese tanks
in what way the leclerc’s armor are inferior to merkava’s in game?
credits: Merkava Mk.4M Meil Ruach — A comprehensive guide | War Thunder Wiki
In the way that the armor values are irrelevant whether it is 200 or 400 as against any top tier round it will pen, and the turret of the Leclerc is significantly worse. Besides, having 3 rather than 4 crew is also a let down along side exploding fuel tanks.
Again, create topic about leclerc and prove that it’s armor is better irl, stop using logical falacies, we’re talking about merkavas here
Sad thing as well is the fact the merks had a report accepted for an armor buff potentially and gaijin then changed it to a factor of weight to armor which the community has since then pulled sources to give to them to prove its higher claims of weight and they just have stayed quiet on the subject since then for 2-3 years? I wish we could get some answers as to how they know that a mk4 and mk3 have the same weight to armor ratio (in a sense) and what their sources are other than Wikipedia for the ideology of that. same goes for the Armor being so weak to kinetic energy
They use propaganda sources for Russian equipment then dismiss the sources we sent for other nations’ vehicles as invalid. Gaijin needs to post the sources they use for all vehicles
Alot of the thing they guesses and its ok but they guess only strong thing to the east and for nato its …well merks
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/VCjv7CNsRySp
Heres the answer we get from bug report manager
Shame just shame
And anyway it doesnt even have era in game
And nothing stops me from saying that you are in no position to complain that this is simply an Israeli issue which is what my original post said, as I have iterated over in Leclerc and all these other threads this issue applies almost universally to all the modern MBTs.
Not in that level
Merks are the oppsite of what they are irl
the OFL G1 pens the merkava in the same places.
The playerbase needs to unite and stop arguing about who’s tanks are worse. Comparing who’s tanks are worse doesn’t solve the issue.