Thanks for the great informative post!
Too bad it doesn’t have optical tracking on dev server, and considering M247 still doesn’t have optical tracking even though it was bug reported nearly a year ago, I don’t have high hopes that Gaijin will implement it before the update goes live…
Huh, that’s cool. Unfortunately on dev server the search radar is copy pasted from the M247, sharing its crappy elevation and even keeping the same name.
Looks like a great 8.3 addition for US.
Hopefully it stays there because if it gets proxy and moves to 9.0 it’ll fix nothing i terms of filling BR gaps. It’s so nice for us to finally get a capable 8.3 spaa.
No reason to give it proxy as M247 is a thing.
It’s a perfect gap filler and hopefully stays that way.
Extremely interesting article,but the big questions right now are:
Another thing to mention is if they’ll add the Laser Rangefinder, because currently in the dev the LRF is missing
I have to disagree with all opinions in denial about letting the XM246 be moved to 9.0-9.3 with its appropriate HE-VT ammunition.
I think this example in particular highlights the community’s disappointing trait to accept whatever bone Gaijin throws their way without second thought; as it’s pretty obvious that only top tier vehicle nerfs will ever spark any sort of meaningful backlash.
While 8.3 is an ideal BR due to its significant lineup capabilities, there’s no reason that 8.0 America couldn’t also take a new SPAA, a couple of which are easily uptiered in the aforementioned 8.3 lineup as features such as a tracking radar are (in my opinion) of much less necessity until more dangerous long range air-to-ground munitions come into play.
The XM246 was born out of the same project as the Sergeant York, so I don’t see why it deserves any less of its potential.
Meh I’d rather not. Giving it proxy would probably push it up in BR, would rather have an AA for 8.3
So you want yet another 9.0 HE-VT slinger while most other nations have none ?
Yeah? You could make this “if other nations don’t have equivalent then X nation can’t get this vehicle/ammunition type” for many vehicles in the game.
Diversity is a strength in War Thunder, and it’s hardly America’s fault that the other nations either don’t have equivalents in-game or never made any to begin with.
Giving a backup to already the best 9.0 AA doesn’t feel fair for others though.
Agreed, I just prefer to see the XM246 at the 9.0-9.7 range or not at all this update. As I linked in my first comment, there are multiple other vehicles that would fill a spot immediately following the M163 that Gaijin could’ve used instead.
And of course, I do not deny that other nations are in need of rank VI AA far more than America at the moment; I’m just arguing in favor of the XM246 as Gaijin decided that it was a necessary use of resources for this update.
Let’s hope they don’t get added. We don’t need another 9.0 spaa we need a 8.3 one lol.
There was a 2.3 Br gap where the M163 became useless the 8.3 was need for the US. Not saying other country’s shouldn’t have gotten more but they did good by adding one.
Subjective opinions I suppose, but when you have gaps of much greater magnitude in nations like Japan and France, and a complete lack of a top tier AA in Israel, the priorities of such a gap of 2.3 are somewhat difficult to justify.
Although again, I’m just trying to make the best out of what Gaijin is adding, whether or not proper implementation would fit the gap Gaijin says it does is hardly my fault.
M247 also is 14.5mm resistance
I’m just happy they added something.
Oh Mauser Brrrrt would also have been nice.
It does look really awesome!
Yes it does but not like the XM246, the XM247 also had partly 14.5 AP protection but it was too heavy, so they reduced it so the rear and side armor on the M247 to something less. It seems it only has 14.5 protection out to ~25-30 degrees from the front.
Correcting the XM246.
I have made a lot of issue reports to get i closer to the reported real-life capabilities if you are interested in close to real-life implementation, please share your “concern”.
Accepted but not yet implemented:
[DEV] XM246 historically wrong armor. // Gaijin.net // Issues
[DEV] XM246 Missing proper delayed fuze HEI round (SAPHEI) // Gaijin.net // Issues
[DEV] XM246 Historically wrong radar // Gaijin.net // Issues
[DEV] XM246 Missing optical search magnification (WFOV) // Gaijin.net // Issues
[DEV] XM246 Missing historical feature APDS-T // Gaijin.net // Issues
[DEV] XM246 casing ejection missing // Gaijin.net // Issues
[DEV] XM246 missing left side smoke launcher // Gaijin.net // Issues
Rejected:
[DEV] XM246 Missing Optical Tracking // Gaijin.net // Issues
[DEV] XM246 additional optical tracking source // Gaijin.net // Issues
Comment: I tried my best to get the historical optical tracking but Gaijin wanted the word “automatic” to be used in the description otherwise they rejected it, despite the DIVAD requirement for a backup system with the same accuracy and multiple descriptions of a continuous tracking system with laser rangefinder and full descriptions of how that system works in the M247 it was not enough, unfortunately for us the word “automatic” in connection to the DIVADs appears to only be used when the system did the whole engagement cycle, except pulling the trigger.
[DEV] XM246 Crew location wrong // Gaijin.net // Issues
Comment: Apparently Gaijin thinks crew hatches and periscopes are just for show and not for the crew, they need a primary source to move the FCS forward and release the crew from their SPAA dungeon.
[DEV] XM246 missing historical feature HE-VT // Gaijin.net // Issues
Comment: I was not surprised that they chose not to give it HE-VT, is what it is, can still happen in the future.
Fixed:
[DEV] XM246 wrong barrel model. // Gaijin.net // Issues
[DEV] XM246 Historically wrong ammunition layout // Gaijin.net // Issues