I do hope we start seeing some dedicated SEAD aircraft for this mode. Stuff like the American Wild Weasels, like the F-100F, F-105G, F-4G, E/A-18G, etc. Also rename the current F-16C Block 50 to the F-16CJ since it carries the AN/ASQ-213 HTS, and that was primarily used by the F-16CJ Wild Weasel variant.
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I just played this mode, and it was fun! Tho I experience an imbalance in some jets in this BR. For example, there are jets still without countermeasures fighting jets with not only countermeasures but have radar capable of look down shoot down. Yes, it is annoying going against those jets, because they necessary don’t have to be in the furball and shoot you from outside the furball because they can. They don’t have to get close to anyone while everyone else have to at least get close to fight one another. For example, MiG23M, MiG23MF, AJS37, JA37C, AJ37, and MiG25PD should not be in this BR at all. These are the jets that doesn’t need to be at this BR range.
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Su-17/22 m4 is probably the best jet you can use. All aspect missiles and good CAS loadout + decent dogfighter. You’ll get SP in no time to spam nukes which is the meta strategy to drain tickets.
In my opinion if nukes were removed the gameplay loop would improve, or at least make the SP cost a lot higher
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AJS37 (11.0) and AJ37 (10.3) literally don’t compete above 11.0 lol why shouldn’t they be here? Have you even played them or seen their loadout?
They literally have a gunpod for a gun if they take it or have IR missiles
Also JA37C is 11.3 so not even in this event
I think they should use a curated list like someone suggested earlier but only for the lower bracket of this era. That way they can put all the flareless planes into that lower bracket and not allow any all aspect missiles in it, but if you still want to use stuff like the A-10 or SU-25 that get aim9l’s and r60m’s for their job of ground pounding, you can still do that in the higher bracket.
Realistically aside from the F105, F-4C and the nuke bombers what common vehicles are being played that don’t have flares? In the 11.0 bracket
I mean we could lump the AJ and AJS since we know RBS 15 is being added and to run those missiles they will lose countermeasure pods, but if you also want enough ordinance to ground strike you need to lose the CM pod to hit three targets when an SPAA is present. 2 targets if you take 24 flares
The F-5E is infuriating and this gamemode does a great job at highlighting how much of a broken plane it is.
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Theres also the Thud, Super Sabre, the regular Sabres, the A-4B, the F-117, just off the top of my head. I’m pretty sure theres more tho. But the nuke planes having no cms is one of the reasons why the lower bracket should not allow anything with all aspect IR and SARH missiles.
F-5E when it has to achieve anything:
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Are they locked into the 11.x bracket? Or can they play in the 8.7-9.7 bracket
Idk I haven’t played the lower tier NE with my AVA8C yet
Is S-75 even a thing in this mode? Only Hawk and M163 seems to get anything done
Some can do the lower bracket but not all.
S-75 is just really really bad
Which ones that you mentioned can’t do the lower bracket?
I can tell
Yeah the S-75 can be dodged by just turning a little bit. The Shilkas however are (small) death spheres like the M163, and can reliably intercept salvos of guided weapons, and even in some cases, dumb bombs as well.
Now do the same with a Jaguar or any subsonic aircraft lol
I’ve played on both teams and honestly even if I go high S-75 is just too trash lol
so the same result that happens when any supersonic fights a subsonic or flareless plane?
Oh no my BnZ strike fighter is too fast for the Cold fusion rat that was made for turn fighting and multi role?
Like idk what people expect, you could also launch your missile up and that way when the Su-17 fires his flares they keep guiding them back on to the Su-17 which works for me quite often