Me 262 in its proper tier

We need Br decompression and vehicles that are placed in accord to their objectively perceivable performance in comparison to the performance of aircraft in the same bracket.

Additionally a maximum up or downtier of only 0.7 likely would be much appreciated by most players.

We obviously have to make do with what we have.

The matchmaker does in fact play quite the role in regard to ones chances in the Br range we are talking about here.

The number of bombers on each team and how many fighters are going to try for them while in turn making themselves easier targets for any enemy that is gaining position.

How many people will dive after a single bomber or cas plane leaving 3 people to face double or thrice that number of enemy fighters at altitude?

There are many different playstyles. Usually when I was in a F4U, or late Spitfire I would regard a ME-262 as a free kill in most situations since it has nowhere near the ability to pressure me in the same way a F-80 or F-84 could. Especially in a random match.

Then there were SU-9 and 11 which were better in every aspect and of course Meteor which you barely have to attempt defending against if you are not in a dominant position or with a hefty energy advantage.

In the end it is a matter of compression but as I said earlier fighting 262 in super props is easier than facing aircraft which are doing the same job as 262 but with so much more thrust that they end up sailing through it.

Facing 262 in F2H is fun I can tell you.

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I don’t expect much from your response, but I feel the need to ask: In the event that what you’re asking for happens, and everything gets decompressed and such, which planes, specifically, would the Me 262 be facing? I do mean specifically, as well. Give me the direct names of which planes it would be fighting.

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They would be directly before the main 7.0 jets come into play (like F-80A-5 for example) and right after the last props.

Gaijin will need to add more jets/variants of more jets to fill in when/if they decompress. This has always been known and it’s what people want anyway generally speaking.

I don’t have to name specifics. You can do your own thinking here.

NGL the 262 would be perfectly fine facing superprops, but we do need more of those.

That’s my own thought process. Have it face the P-51H and Griffon Spitfires, also add in the early Meteor variants, etc.

I asked the question because as much as I agree with decompression, if a vehicle’s problem isn’t uptiers but also its own tier, then standard decompression doesn’t fix the problem, which is a point I don’t see brought up very often in response to the decompression-as-solution argument…

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me262 doesnt suffer at 7.0 just because “its a bad 7.0”, it suffers because they have moved vehicles down into its matchmaker that do not belong. It did not do poorly in years where it had fairer matchmaking. Decompression moves these problem vehicles up while not moving the 262 up.

F4U-5 standing by.

“Good” when you can use the skill for 99% accuracy 50cals to achieve 60%? Nah Call mg17 the best weapon for it can snipe 1000 pilots.

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It is very much a bad 7.0. I see no reason to play a 262 over an F-80A when it has worse firepower, worse maneuverability, and probably worse climb rate too.

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Too many missing to list here. Personally I’m looking forward more to the FR-1.

You seem confused this topic isnt about the 30mm guns its about the 262 the 30mm is fine you just have to learn them sure they are much different but you do not need to whine about them

The 262 is terrible largely due to these guns.

You are missing the point.

You are simply bad with them then because i can easily get 3-5 kills a match with the 262 the guns arnt bad you are the problem keep in mind i use the a2a whitch has less than half the ammo then the norm 262

MK108 has a very negative impact on 262 performance.
Skills can compensate performances, but would be more useful on better vehicles & weapons.

End of statement. Stop trolling.

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Your 1:1 says something else.

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A1a getting an air spawn as an interceptor just like A1a Jabo does as a fighter bomber would be immensely helpful already.

This is because i commonly bring the 262 way out of its br range because i find it fun at higher tiers like 10.7 thats where i play 262 60% of the time and checking stats is a bit sad

I mean, you’re asking the 262 to be a fighter, which it isn’t. Why complain about the cannons? You legitimately cannot change them. Do you want the 262 at like 6.3-6.7 because the cannons are bad? I dont know what your fighting for

Why not?

Glad you agree that it hasn’t got an avg fighter performance! An interceptor that don’t usually have its prey, nor speed nor energy? ofc lower it.

Also this is not compression: it won’t be more fun to play/ useful/ suiting the meta than a ,e.g. J21ra xD

Btw, mk108 has self destruction at 1.33-1.36km (1-1.04 for night tracers)
The part that can’t be compensated by skills xD

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