Maybe T80BVM need to have 3BM46

Huh?

How would BVM be slightly worse, when it has:

-Much faster turret traverse speed (40º/s vs 26º/s).
-Much faster gun elevation speed (40º/s vs 4.4º/s).
-Much better hull front (720 vs 620) and side (troll Relikt) armor.

Switching to 46, BVM would have the same reload and penetration as those, with these three advantages; with 60, it has more pen, but also worse reload.

EDIT: Turns out UE has the same rotation speed as BVM! Not elevation, but still.

T-80UE has the same horizontal traverse speed as BVM though.

locked behind a paywall though

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Holy Jesus, true!!

Still pathetic elevation speed, but… I didn’t know about the traverse!

Damn. Shame the T-80UEs are both Premium. They are unironically the best Russian tanks at the moment… and to top it off, they are just 12.0 xD

They are much better 12.7 backups to BVM than T-72B3A or even T-90M for sure.

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The 12.0 Abrams gives them a run for their money, probably USA’s most powerful ground line up with unlimited Abrams respawn, with backups you can spawn 10 Abrams that easily delete 12.7s on sight. I hadn’t got 12.0 T-80s but playing 11.7 versions gives me the impression that the 12.0 t-80s might have been #2 best mbts in their respective br, will change my mind after I got the 12.0 Leopards but based on my experience on fighting those things their turret protection are not good enough compare to Abrams and T-80s.

The Abrams are in a funny situation hahah.

As it stands right now, they are all 12.3 material; the 12.0s are undertiered, the 12.7s are overtiered.

Only M1A1 AIM feels like a proper 12.0, and that’s because it’s artificially nerfed with a shell it never used. Instead, I believe it should be 12.3 with its historical shell and along with the other current 12.0s.

This is how I believe they should be:

M1A1 HC: 12.3, M829A2
M1A1 AIM: 12.3, KE-W A2
M1A2: 12.3, M829A2

M1A2 SEP: 12.7, M829A3
M1A2 SEPv2: 12.7, M829A3

Hmm, with that ammo it will be better than SEPs and chinese’s version because of concealment. Driving around with those trashes on top of the turret simply breaks stealth, like those fools who put a dirt bike on the turret to tell everybody they are there lol