Massive skill issue in MiG-19PT (ARB)

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Hello there !

Since a month or two, I started playing Air Realistic and learning all the various aspects of it. For 2k hours of game, I played mostly GRB 95% of the time with some AAB few years back, so for now I’m not the greatest pilot, I have still a lot to learn :)

For now, I’ve reached the MiG-19PT in the USSR TT at 9.3 and to be honest, I can’t do sh*t with it, I have the terrible feeling of being annihilated by almost everything, as my current “super performance” is 1 kill for 16 deaths in 20 matches.

I oftenly facing some fast airplanes at altitude that runs on me with better stuff such as Mirage IIIC, MiG-21SMT, F4-C and so on (the usual 10.3 suspects) by taking Magic 1, some radar and R-60 family missiles (and other 30G missiles)… I try to escape by maintaining some speed at around 0.8 Mach, but once I’m chased sidely or at my 6, I can’t do anything (or I’m panicking too much ?).

Here are some replays showcasing my issues, since pictures worth better than thousands words:

With this, I try to take a new approach to the PT gameplay (not reflected in all the replays):

  1. Take off, pick up speed
  2. Side-climb at 20° at around 4000-5000m
  3. Let the furball dissipate a bit and, survive and try to take opportunity kills

I know that current 9.3 BR is a uptier hell in ARB but being slapped like that can’t only be the fact that I’m flareless and facing all-aspect missiles, I have a feeling of missing basic things… I still trying to learn evade tactics, it takes times to be automatic in my gameplay.

I had troubles previously with the MiG-15 at first mostly due the cannons, but I managed to do some things with it (especially the bis version), not the best K/D but overall it was a challenging but a (way more) fun experience.

Thank you very much for you help !

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Tbh, the MiG-19 can very much be formidible, but it is very hard to play. I personally am not the person to ask when it comes to how to play it, but here’s some guides from DEFYN and the likes.

Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNN3ON_06YU&pp=ygUGTWlHLTE5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx83IdrYUIU&t=2s

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My best advice is to not spawn it when you’re facing planes above 9.7. It’s a lot better when you have the flight performance advantage over others.

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Thanks ! Already subscribed to these 2 guys and already check those videos. And yes, I think there are potential here, but it seems to take a hell of a learning curve ouch

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The problem with this is I fear that I won’t spawn it that much since most of the games are 9.7+ BR :/ I hate giving up on difficulty, but sometimes you can’t resist

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This is ridiculous 😭
the mig19 is competitive fm wise even in a full uptier, it’s the compression and ergo that seriously hinder its frag performance

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I completely agree, and I believe that is why the Q-5s (heavier but more powerful Mig-19 with flares) are going to 10.0. The Mig-19 has such an great flight model, yet it’s ruined by BR compression.

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I personally struggle with mine due to the NR 30s, I cant aim them for the life of me. That said, its flight performance is formidable and outmaneuvers Fishbeds. I would suggest using it as support and only take fights that are 1v1. I find all my kills come from the R-3S lol