I’ve been playing the f4u 4b extensively and now after the new patch dropped I found multiple differences on it’s flight model and met two games against the heaviest anton 190s and found out it was unable to deal the slighest to them and had zero leverage against them. Found these things on the f4u-4b:
-Rudder response latency
-Worse turn radius in the vertical
-Worse turn rate in the horizontal
-Terrible acceleration
-Landing gear doesn’t airbrake as much as it did before
-Cannons deal little to no damage whatsoever while mg151s now blow up anything they touch with a single hit
Did it get a nerf? Remember that patch notes don’t always show all the changes and it’s seen in files outside the game, i believe those with a github account can access to them.
It might not have been this patch… and it might be your controls. My limited testing (F4U-4, so not exactly the same model) yesterday bears out my own in game experience - the Corsair is a brick that turns marginally better than the 190. I could run it again to see if the patch changed anything.
Yeah, I didn’t play the new update yet but the 151 is damage, ballistics and anti-ground the worst 20mm of this game. the AN/M2 or M3 do more damage, have a lot better ballistics, and most importantly, a full belt of HEF-T. Compared to the IT round you are forced carry with the 151.
Try the stealth belt of the f4u-4b, you might be hitting only the AP.
FWIW, comparing the F4U-4 from right before the patch to the F4U-4B today… (I guess I could revisit the F4U-4 for consistency)
at 6000 m, the -4 out rate the -4B from 500 kph to 375 kph, the -4B enjoying a marginal advantage below that (sustaining about 14 deg/s, while the -4 drops to ~13 deg/s)
at 3000 m, the -4 out rates the -4B at all tested speeds (650 kph and under) by 1-1.5 deg/s. The -4B sustains a slightly higher turn rate (~16.75 vs. ~16 deg/s)
at (near) sea level, the -4B enjoyed a slight rate advantage between 810 kph and 630 kph. The -4 enjoyed a slightly larger (on the order of 1 deg/s) rate advantage relative IAS below that. Both showed near identical sustained, though the -4B with more speed.
Now, I don’t have anyway to know if they’re the same FM and/or if the cannons have always made this much a difference in performance. That’s just what my admittedly imprecise testing shows.
Compared to the Fw-190 D-13 @ 3000 meters - the 190 (from two days ago) out rates the F4U-4B above 600 kph and rates almost identically below that. The turn radius of the 190 is a little tighter at speed, and functionally equal below 600 kph. Notably, the -4B gets about a ~2 deg/s bump to rate with flaps and WILL out rate the 190 once they’re deployed. The -4B also get tighter with flaps - about 10%. The impact of the 190s flaps, while significant, is far more modest.
However, for your amusement and potential concern, the P-47M dunks HARD on both of them with a significantly better turn rate at all speeds until the F4U-4B’s flaps come out. The grown up Thunderbolt has high speed handling and performance they can only dream about ;-). The P-47D-28 also dunks on the F4U-4B until they hit ~ 370 kph and equalize (again, until the flaps come out).
I think you can get more out of the Corsair with the right control setup (as discussed in another thread)… but, bottom line, the Corsair in my experience and testing is a bus.