Marder M12 - An Interim Solution

Also it’s not even the same family at all the mk30-2 and all other varients are gas operated while bushmasters are chain operated. They use completely different operations they are similar because they are both 30mm guns from nato that’s about it

I was referring to you saying it’s the same gun as on the puma, not the Bushmaster.

For the most part the mk30-2 and mk30-2 abm are the same they actually are it’s just the programer on the end

+1

Unironically love the Marder chassis.

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this is a really good addition to the game

No.
Burst fire is available


“Single-Shot, Rapid Single Fire, Contiunous Fire” (Burst)


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ola, Marder M12 article (Soldat Und Technik 02/1996)

Spoiler: Full Article & KUKA Advertisement

Higher Res Pictures:


ANYWAY, because I wasted a bunch of my time on researching this, ima info-dump on the sight-combinations now, so I can somehow justify the time I spent on this.


“VERSION 1”


PERI Z16 A1 for the commander
Also used as gunner-sight on a.o. SpPz Luchs A2 and Marder 1 A2/A3/A4/A5;
First generation TVD (WBG-X), 2x-6x magnification (day-sight)

according to Jane’s Publications;
MITHRIDAT for the gunner;
idk what TVD generation this would be, but magnification is 1x-8x (which would be fixed 8x ingame)

Spoiler: Sources & Data (if you have anything further on MITHRIDAT, pls post <3)



“VERSION 2”


PERI Z17 mod. for the commander
8x Magnification, has TVD (no clue which generation)

STN ATLAS FAUST for the gunner;
Little to no data on this, might be related to PERI RTWL and/or SEOSS.
allegedly: 3rd generation TVD, 2x-8x magnification

Spoiler: Sources & Data (if you have anything further on FAUST or PERI Z17, pls post <3)

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Spoiler: Origin of second picture:

Schützenpanzer Marder / KUKA M12 | Panzermuseum Munster | 270862 | Flickr


“”“VERSION 3"”"


Unlike the others, this one doesnt actually exist per-se; It’s a combination of SEOSS and PERI Z17.
It is entirely possible that “FAUST” is essentially a predecessor of SEOSS (and/or PERI RTWL) but I have been unable to confirm this so far.

Spoiler: Some sources for this:

RTWL:


SEOSS:



There are no pictures that show, without a doubt, that SEOSS was fitted on Marder M12 (which uses a KUKA E4 turret fyi; KUKA Wehrtechnik became part of Rheinmetall somewhere down the road).

However, it was fitted to a turret shown on a Patria AMV 8x8:

Spoiler: Source


Hope this infodump was atleast somewhat interesting, if anyone has further data on theses sights/fire control systems (MITHRIDAT, PERI Z17, FAUST [and its potential relation to PERI RTWL / SEOSS]) please feel free to share them.

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