Marder 1a1 on 6.7 or Rattel 20 on 7.7

Machinery of War Discussion Ground Vehicle
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put the Marder 1a1 or the Rattel 20 on 7.7 cause both have the same gun with same pen and the same ATGM. please fix this.

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The Ratel 20 can get .50 cal’ed from almost every angle, the other doesn’t. Marder 1 has better acceleration and a faster reverse speed, the Ratel 20 is slow relatively.

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No, op has a point.

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Not everything is about penetration, there are other factors that make the vehicles simply not equivalent in capabilities (Ie M5 stuart vs M2A4).

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the ratel 20 has 10mm of armour.

I think it should be 7.3 because its still got an ATGM.

marder a1 move up to 8.3 as its better in every way

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Yes pls if you want it to be devoured by US 8.7.
But other then that no.

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8.3 is ridiculous, BMP-2 Bradley and warrior exist.

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Marder 1A3 is 8.0 and pefectly fine as it is.

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Its a very competent vehicle with a very capable ATGM and the armour to keep alive for long enough to hit.

ratel doesnt have that

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{Insert=US_8.7}

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Is this a new kind of bait or joke?

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makes no sense

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You think i dont believe all of that should be moved up too?

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Does not justify uptiering

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You forgot the warrior exists

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And that would make out better. Doesn’t need to fight late Russian heavies and Maus.