Has the smokeless motor bug fixed?
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Not that I’ve heard :(((
Nope, not yet
Hope this will also apply to the FIM-92Ks
Yes it will, all singers in-game share the same seeker (Singer POST)
I just brain farted and wrote F instead of K designation, fixed it on the report.
Really hope Gaijin realizes that too
Apart from the ATAS, which for some reason is the Basic (FIM-92A) model instead of the RMP (FIM-92C) or RMP Block I (FIM-92E) missiles, even though the later variants are compatible with the ATAL mount.
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ATAS is derived from FIM-92B and C. This features the same seeker as E and K stingers. It just lacks the Proxy fuze, some signal processing(?) and the Reprogrammable Micro Controller
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Maybe it’s been posted before but I don’t know but I found this in a 1997 Budget for 1998-1999 it mentions upgrades for the Stinger to extend the range against Helicopters in cluttered environments meaning the helicopters flying in a cloudy-sky background or in front of mountains, I don’t think it’s much to go on but maybe it could be used as a source for a larger report for more modern Stingers like the FIM-92J/K having better tracking range than models like the FIM-92E or even earlier models if they got added in at least some scenarios like a helicopter sticking to mountains.
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And the part where it directly says Imaging Infrared seeker should be useful too.
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The IIR seeker (Also used by the AIM-9X)means its referencing the RMP Block II which was not adopted for service due to expense, and needing to streamline the budgets. Though it did see testing.
Its ultimately unlikely to see addition unless infantry was added due to it not being integrated into any specific non test vehicle configurations, that would be relevant to War Thunder.
The Other FIM-92 variant that would be interesting is the ADSM (Air Defense Suppression Missile), which is basically a counterpart to the Anti-Radiation SideARM (AGM-122), but built of the Stinger Airframe, not the Sidewinder, but in exchange for reduced range (less important due to the reduced Radar Horizon at low altitudes / with NoE flight, or Pop-Up attack profiles), would effective double carriage capacity / efficiency by utilizing the ATAL in place of the LAU-7 as the Launch rail.
The IIR seeker (Also used by the AIM-9X)means its referencing the RMP Block II which was not adopted for service due to expense, and needing to streamline the budgets. Though it did see testing.
I was starting to thing that was the case, I’ve been on DTIC for the past few hours trying to find some more sources on the Stinger and a mention of an upgrade from the 90s that didn’t go into production got me thinking that it was what I posted.
As far as it goes right now I think the Type 91 Kai is the only MANPADS with an IIR seekerhead in service, plus it has a reduced smoke motor too.
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Mistral 3 also uses an IIR seeker.
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Mmmm, forgot about that one, my thanks.
Next I want an explanation how a 96g HEFI-T shell with 4.13g explosive is blowing up an airplanes wing in the same amount of shots as a 92g HEI shell with 18.7g explosive.
While we are talking about MANPADS and IR missile the Strela currently cannot be flared at all even by modern day jets with MAWs it is so broken. This clearly isnt realistic as we have seen Strelas flared and defeated in multiple conflicts. Any jet within the range of a Strela dies.
Gaijin need to adjust Strelas IRCCM.
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The first thing is that you are not showing a HEFI-T in the first image, its just a FI-T.
Second thing is that explosive mass matter way less than TNT equivalent mass for explosives as you can have two explosives of different types with the same mass but that does vastly different amount of explosions.
The FI-T shell tends to do more damage to a single part while the HEI does less damage per part but hits more parts per shell. and since both are incendiary i would venture a guess that the HEI is more likely to sett the enemy on fire as it has more chances per hit to do so, but i’m not sure.
Sidenote:
Screenshots from protection analysis don’t really tell you much and can be manipulated to show an agenda if you just aim it correctly. With these screenshots of the same shells you used i can make it look like its the opposite of what you say:
(Now these are purposefully picked to NOT be accurate to expected outcomes on average, just to show how the protection analysis screenshots often don’t tell the full story)
So see the protection analysis more of like a tool to show you an average of what a shell accomplishes. So personally i think you should fire multiple shells of each type on different areas of the plane and see how they perform against different parts.
TLDR:
FI-T shell do more damage to a single part while HEI does less damage per part but hits several all at once likely increasing the chances of starting a fire.
do your research flares dont impact strela EO mode if a strela was flared it was in the ir mode
So what you are saying is chaff and flare cannot counter a fire and forget SAM?
Gaijin thought that was a good idea I will also say EO mode works through cloud cover in game and it shouldnt.
Whats the counter for a Strela missile then?