How can anyone see excrement like this and think “ummm yeah working as intended”
Technical moderators, balancing team? Hello?
Oh wait, maybe this is exactly intended. People who don’t play USSR are 2nd class citizens who don’t deserve even a crumb of SPAA no matter how much they beg for it.
I did, but I did not.
Took a few months break from the game. Glad to see instead of fixing the nato manpads they buffed the soviet one even more.
Just because Russian MANPADS are garbage, doesn’t mean everyone else’s has to be as well. You know, instead of nerfing everyone else equipment, it would’ve made more sense to just buff the Russian equipment.
smh
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Do those Igla’s come out from the tubes at 30 degree angle or are the tubes more slanted than they look?
They come out straight but perform a kick(English Bias) maneuver upon leaving the tube before the main motor fires.
Their steering isn’t disabled for 2.5 years after launch unlike the stingers.
They claim that before the rocket motor fires, there is a gas generator (likely to spin up gyroscopes internally) that is used to push the missile and give it better lead and super elevation.
Essentially, it’s like uncaging the seeker on a Stinger or Mistral and pre-leading it, but done automatically by the missile after launch, instead of before. As far as I know, this gas generator thrust is somewhat limited in helping lead the missile compared to manually pointing the launcher ahead of the intended target like when using a Stinger.
Seems weird to have the Igla automatically get ideal lead after launch in game while any other MANPADS in game currently lack lead indications and are launched essentially by guesswork.
You don’t say … 🤔
I get it’s just pointing out the obvious, but that lead indicator thing is weird.
Why have it removed specifically for MANPADS, when they can still benefit from lead just like manually guided SAM or cannon SPAA do. I doubt it’s a historical thing, since both Type 93 and Type 81 (C) do provide lead indication in reality and I doubt they are the only ones.
9m39 has a miniature explosive gas-turbine power system instead of a battery (or alongside idk) which provides power to the systems. A byproduct of this is hot, high pressure exhaust which is directed out the sides of the missile. Internally there is a solenoid which alternates exhaust ports, which when combined with the spinning motion, gives a pseudo thrust-vectoring for the early stage of flight before the fins start becoming effective.
That is not what the missile is doing. It’s essentially the same thing the Tor-M1 does, except instead of a 90° turn it just points directly/leads the target. The missile even having this capability is what is in question
We went over this already in this thread, but yes there is photo evidence of this system being present and it is specifically mentioned in the manual.
It’s been a couple of months, but I don’t remember the manual stating the thruster was specifically for this sort of “first turn” capability. I thought it was ambiguous and just as easily could have been to simply impart the spin on the missile
(Only known photo evidence showing the actual nozzle)
(From the manual I believe)
(Also from the manual I believe)
Google translate technical speak makes my brain hurt. And at least based on that it says 2 different things.
This video is much more definitive in my opinion. This first one, the “required angles of advance and elevation” as the manual puts it are so minimal it almost looks like just the missile falling with spin. Here I can also make out the “kick” from the motor that stops the missile right on its line.
All that means to me is even less reason for them to blatantly lie and ignore primary sources for Western MANPADs then.
Seeing this new information come to light, have the Developers considered what effects the 9M39’s turbine generator may have on in-flight maneuverability?
Does it provide the hydraulic force for the fins directly? Does the gyroscopic force matter at all? It is my understanding that this system is entirely unique to the 9M39 and 9M313, and is not present in any form on Western MANPADS.
