Making Russian Tank Protection more realistic

What I also don’t understand is that the Leo2A6 doesn’t get its ammunition in the game and that too
a nerf to reload time and a nerf to upper hull. Do I have to accept that? But the BVM stays like this?? just ridiculous hah

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Responding here as well.
T-80 doesn’t have its reload or ammo either.
& 2A6 has its armor that we know of. Armor is not nerfed, it is exclusively acted on based on knowledge available. T-80 having all of its armor unclassified helps it be accurate.
If other countries are underperforming based on known unclassified data, there’s a bug report website for that.
Just cause ammo is not present, & reload is slightly slower than real life sprints doesn’t mean something is bad.

You imply all experienced players are novices.
You imply that everyone that has skill are not credible.
You imply that all people learn as slowly as you do.
You imply all facts from experienced players are disinformation.

I have Japan air entirely completed.
I have Japan ground completed.* I haven’t gotten the tanks added after Type 90, and haven’t gotten TKX.
So with those “less battles” than yourself, I completed both air & ground. & the only reason I didn’t play much ground for the last year was burnout. & I’m finishing air trees right now since I’m almost done.

I have T-80U & B3 spaded. I’ve never purchased a modification on a ground vehicle.

I agree with all the people that post intelligently here. I’ve dismissed no one that posts intelligently.
You claim I have no experience after showing I have plenty of experience. You claim having experience makes people a novice, which is hilariously bad take.

TOR-M1 is the best SPAA in the game, which isn’t in Soviets.

Please stop claiming this entire community posts disinformation just cause we agree on the facts.

Every T-80 & T-72 I experience spalls. 100% ammo rack rate. I’ve never not had a T-80 or T-72 not ammo rack.

You call me a joke cause I I’m credible? Dude, you post antagonism against people that have 6 top tech trees, with the other 4 on the way. I just unlocked rank 8 air for China yesterday while you were thinking up disinformation about experienced players.

Like how do you show evidence of someone being experienced while at the same time denying that evidence?

BTW, Mirage 3C you should lookup in my statcard. That’s spaded, never been played since spading it, and I spaded it when facing F-14A. Since you’re so keen on checking statcards.

So instead of insulting people that have knowledge that seems to work for them, maybe be respectful.

Claiming that people that are ammo racking T-series tanks with a 100% success rate aren’t credible isn’t a good look.

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BTW, Cavenub is a good source of videos.

To say existing top tier vehicles have their real life armor, or even something resembling that, implemented in game, is to either not understand the vehicles in game, or not understand how armor works IRL.
And if that’s what Gaijin’s official position is, then that’s really bad.

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Best? Nah mate, Soviets have some good CAS, but best goes to Murica!
From Corsair to P51 to F5 to F14 to A4, so many beautiful CAS.
There’s good reason I choose America 5.7 when doing daily tasks that require me to get in a plane.
M18 + Corsair.
Soviets have good CAS, but it’s nothing compared to America.

That’s why I only make the claim that I know T-80s armor is accurate, because when Soviets collapsed, everything was declassified & most was translated.
What I’m personally sus of is T-72B 1985 we have in game using K1.
I think that might be over-performing.
I want to investigate non-Soviet tanks as well, but I only speak English fluently, and American tanks are all classified.

If I were a guessing man tho, I’d say that most Soviet armor is performing accurately, BUT many non-Soviet stuff isn’t. Partially due to classified documents, partially due to language barriers.
Perforation simulation would be nice.

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We all want a game that’s fair.
No one should belittle others.

@D00MBrInG3r777
American* bias supporter.
Get the joke right at least.

@RedCoast777
I have experience which was already proven. I might be slower than when I was at 19, but I still learn things fast.
There’s a reason I have 6 tech trees to the top for air & ground.
Your attempt at baiting me won’t work.

What bugs people most is the T-80BVM whose armor is very far from its real life counterpart, by several hundred mm.
Many T-64/72/80 tanks are still overperforming as well. Using M426, M322, and M338 shells, it’s still practically impossible to penetrate either the turret or UFP armor, and I have to always resort to firing on LFP. This means the armor is very much overperforming, especially when older and less capable Soviet ammo is sufficient to penetrate even the most well armored BVM.

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The hull armor of BVM & U are identical in-game, which is likely accurate IRL as well since that is the most modern variant of that armor composition. And in-game it’s easily penned by DM53, and probably 3BM60 as well [the armor itself].

However, I think you mean to claim the Relikt itself is overperforming rather than the armor.
When I talk about the armor, I speak about the permanent plating.
I’ll talk about the ERA if I address it.

And IDK what Relikt is like IRL, and I don’t think any of us know.
Maybe it’s accurate and really this good, maybe it’s inaccurate.

@sartt
Ah, you’re the Russian main that has been false-flagging my posts.

Both the T-80U, T-80BVM base hull overperform astronomically

Their ERA underperforms slightly but overall T-80U for example should offer 506mm KE vs apfsds and not 640mm KE at 0 degrees vs apfsds

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Sombralix, if perforation was simulated, their armor is rather accurate.
And because perforation isn’t simulated, all armor in WT over-performs against darts.

Perforation is simulated, what are you even smoking?

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ERA is an integral part of the armor, especially in game as the same area is unlikely to be hit twice. And in WT the Relikt is a significant addition.
Only for Russia it’s single-use, because they’re the only ones who put single-use ERA on the front IRL, but also only Russia gets armor bonuses from it. Other tanks with ERA in game don’t get the bonuses, and they far outweigh the downside of single-use armor.

We’ve already had this discussion. The Relikt over performs because its real life counters were not modeled in game, and because there is evidence of it not performing to specs.

Relikt also over-performs because its AoA calculations were disabled whereas on the Merkava, which is the only counterpart in terms of ERA usage, the ERA protection depends on AoA. That is, the Relikt performs at any angle at its strongest, while the ASPRO-KE and ASPRO-H don’t.

All the evidence exists and was reported to Gaijin a long time ago.

I’ve also decided that the method of getting better rounds in-game means giving SHARD to everyone.
Japan, Italy, Germany, Sweden, Britain [Challenger 3], etc all get France’s SHARD ammo.
That way USA can get M829A3, and Soviets Vacuum.
Now, I don’t expect this ammo at the BRs we have now, but I expect this to occur at or after rank 8 ground is added.

@GNDM_Panzer
Employees have titles next to their names as well as an icon.
I am not an employee, also I’m one of the only ones here opposing bias narratives.
How do you explain Strv 122 being the best MBT in WT?
F-14B & Mirage 2000 being best CAS?
TOR-M1 being best SPAA?
F-16 & Mig-29 being rather identical?
CV90120 being best light tank?

What for? Germany has its very own DM73 and DM83 rounds. The latter being selected by the British for their Challenger 3 as well.

Besides the fact, if Gaijin simply fixed how they simulate the armours of Soviet/RU vehicles, there’d never be a need to move past DM53 and M829A3 w/their anti-ERA modelled.

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Yes let’s give shard to all regardless of wether it’s even used by a nation.
Let’s make everyone identical and make everyone’s armour except Russia completely pointless by giving everyone OP rounds because it’s better to make the game boring and copy and paste experience than to give Russian tanks an actual realistic armour protection

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You guys know, if everyone simply blacklisted/ignored RazerVon then he wouldn’t be an issue to this community anymore right?

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