@Smin1080p_WT Hello, Smin. Sorry to bother you, could you give a clear answer about the decision to remove the smoke trail from almost all new air defense systems? For such as IRIS-T, sky sabre, etc.? Even the old pantsir-s1 has a smoky trail according to video evidence, but for some reason it is being removed in the game?
Weight is a real thing
They weight more than Vikhrs and rocket pods but also combat load flexibility.
We see Ka-52M using KH-69 but that doesnt mean it can carry 8 of them due to the weight etc.
Because the IRIS-T SLM is supposed to be smokeless / reduced smoke, can’t say anything about the others tho
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They weigh less than the 500kg bombs it can carry on each pylon
1 LMUR weighs ~100kg
And let’s give a generous estimate and say the launch rail weighs 200kg
So 2 missiles plus the launch rail would be ~400kg
Which is less than a single 500kg bomb
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its mainly for balance tho
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I wouldn’t be so sure. Since the only reliable way to kill these helicopters will be aviation, the helicopter’s ability to protect itself from aviation is quite an important parameter. And here the mi28mn looks the best, because it will be almost unreal to kill it without brimstones or something like that (with 4 lmur + 6 vikhres + 4 igla loadout). It’s hard to say which helicopter will be the best overall, but for me, the mi28mn looks like the most versatile option for all possible situations.
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if you angle the mi28nm the DIRCM works (looking at the missiles directly somehow wont yeet it away)
with vikhrs, lmur and igla AND the 30mm with apds which you can use to snipe mbts/light tanks from 2km away
in terms of offensive armament id take the mi28nm all day
Are you going to ignore the fact that the LMUR is a very big missile with a warhead nearly 3x larger than JAGM-MR?
You don’t need as many missiles if each single one is more lethal
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That applies to all of those helis tho minus the vhikers and the z10 still gets pretty potent A2A missiles to defend itself against other aircraft
But for pure A2G the Mi-28 will highly likely be worse due to it having less Fnf missiles than the other 2
but from what ive been reading is the bug report section, apparently the ah64E gets proxy shells for its chin gun, and the JAGMs will also get proxy fuse (air burst)
Less missiles equals less potential kills
The kill potential is still lower for the Mi-28 than for the other two helis
I highly doubt these will come in time for the update
they did get accepted so we will see i guess
The proxy for the Gun is as far as I know for dealing with infantry, so not that useful in war thunder
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the X4 missile also has an acoustic sound fuse but it gets proxy fuse (last tested in the dev server)
so i guess it will work against air targets aswell
The acoustic sound fuze was a type of proxy fuze
Hey. Most of these systems had reduced smoke reports made. If the system ahould have smoke, it can be reported. But please do not create reports on the basis of datamines. They need to be shown and tested in game.
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