Major Update “Tusk Force” - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

Those are unarmed ones

Again these models are unarmed for the most part and don’t really do anything. The only vehicle they could add is a Danish Fennec since ours were armed with TOW’s.

Again Sweden is kinda dead on the air front with no helicopters to add. And gaijin ignoring the air tree whenever possible to ignore filling out the areas they need equipment.

Technically the MH-60’s from Norway and Sweden can mount Hellfires, they just don’t use them and they would only be able to carry 4x hellfires. The naval ones have equipment to use them.

Norway, Finland, & Denmark don’t really have anything unfortunately.

Unarmed

The Norwegian ones only have ARH anti shipping missiles, depth charges, and torps. The danish Lynxs has tows but that’s not exactly amazing.

Only rockets iirc

It’s almost like I prefaced this with:

depending on how they consider their rules for armaments

Which they have clearly demonstrated to be pretty loose and inconsistent with

I mean gaijin could just add Etsi with the UK AH64E lol. (Pls no snail it wouldn’t make sense.)

Reminder as long as a aircraft retain the capability to use a weapon it could get it.

Dose this mean it will get it? no. Dose it also apply to helicopters? I’m not sure.

Btw meant to say Fennec not lynx my bad.
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God snail i want please, i need it for my Danske lineup

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“We want more helicopters in the tree”

Suggests one that is completely viable

“N-no!!?! Not like that! It needs to be a fantasy end of line attack helicopter!”

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To be fair it doesn’t really add anything, its basically the same as the HKP9.

Again we could joke and say Estonia should be added given their ties with us nords but they dont operate Helicopters themselves, just the British bases in Estonia.

If he’s referring to JAGM then that isn’t applicable, since they never had the capability to begin with

So?

You want a bigger tree, it will give you a bigger tree, while still being a new airframes to the tree.

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Not like thats a problem for gaijin ahem SAFF Gripen with GBU-39

cough they still haven’t upgraded to MS20 since they bought the gripens in the early 2000’s and dont have much money for their airforce yet in game they have them cough

Eh, then theres the other problem, Denmark isn’t a swedish Subtree. Germany wants us too, though given our relations during WW2 it would be weird seeing our vehicles we used against them fly with them but whatever.

Theyre still capable, no?

Sweden didnt have G mavs either, but got them as theyre capable. Id rather have the “X frame can carry it, therefore Y nations frame can too” rule thingy (unless theyre literally incapable of having them)

It’s not, but they got the 9035DK, so frankly I would say it’s not a stretch at this point to consider it a likely sub

(Also thought the Leo 1A5 was a DK, but it’s NO, oops)

No, MS20 upgrade only added the ability to launch and guide GPS weapons like GBU-39, MS19 is not capable of doing that as you’re missing key avionic systems to guide them in the first place. For balance reasons gaijin made all Gripens fit what they wanted which is why none of them use their correct radar or are missing certain other aspects. Again for the sake of balance gaijin gave Britain a vehicle their subnation doesn’t have, this isn’t the same as the AGM65 which again between SAAF and SWE, the Swedish were using RB75T so their pylons actually have the ability to mount and use AGM65

Again as much as SAAB loves to state everything can be mounted, thats only if their engineers modify the vehicle to carry them SAAF only has dumb bombs and no AGM’s on the Gripen. And GBU-39 could only be used by the MS20 Gripens.

Heres an example. Again MS or Material System isn’t well talked about but we have a pretty good list of what the upgrades brought

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Explain why the US F-16C can’t carry GPS munitions on the inner pylons then.

(Despite being proven to be correctly wired for them)

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MS17, 2004: color displays, better avionics, support for more weapons.

MS18, 2005: improved radar, a new system for electronic warfare, more data links, support for a reconnaissance pod with an advanced digital camera, and aerial refueling.

MS19, 2007: Improved night-flying, up to 8 hour sorties, Robot 98 [IRIS-T], protection against homing missiles, new bombing system, and NATO-datalink Link 16.

MS20, 2016: Meteor. Long-range radar-controlled hunting robot. Interacts with the aircraft’s sensors and support systems to detect and intercept enemy aircraft. Powered by ramjet engine, making it significantly harder to avoid. GBU-39. Small Diameter Bomb (SDB). A GPS-guided high-precision bomb with long-range capability. CBRN protection. The new protection against chemical, biological, radiological and nuclear threats makes it possible to carry out missions in contaminated environments. GCAS, Ground Collision Avoidance System. Automatic system to prevent collision with the ground in uncontrolled flight mode. Link 16 combat command link - extended functionality and faster data handling between the aircraft, the command center and other combat aircraft.

SAAF hasn’t ordered new Gripens since the MS19 was available and of their Gripens they have they have had so much financial problems that they grounded their airforce for an entire year. In 2018 SAAB sent a engineer to try and get them to get on a plan to upgrade to MS20. they couldn’t afford it and right now are on a plan to get their gripens a stable supply of parts guven they’ve been resorting to cheaper alternative companies for different functions like their election seats.

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I dont do additions, neither do I know stuff about American, non export jets