Major Update "Seek & Destroy" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 4)

There is a Spanish prototype equipped with breda 20/65 and L3 with the same cannon.

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Ah, very interesting

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Bro was writing a masterpiece

PL-12s are inferior to AMRAAMs, completely not realistic aside(which can just be solved by a rename to SD-10), J-8F also lacks the tws mode hindering radar ID in long range combat situations. Additionally it lacks IRCCM capable missiles namely the PL-8A/Bs.

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Did someone say SUBMARINES?!?!

Give it to me!

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Waiting for the submarine IJN I-400 ๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿ‘ˆ

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20 mins for the stream

The PL-12s will most likely perform very similar (or even exactly similar) to AIM-120s for balance reasons and simplicityโ€™s sake

According to the PLAAF, the PL-12 is between the AIM-120B and C in effectiveness.

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dev server today?

Which is unrealistic but understandable, also there is a nerfed version aka the SD10 for exports, simply renaming the current ARH to it could address the issue.

Ye

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I mean, as Godvana just said, the PL-12s are regarded as being on par with the AMRAAMs of the time, so I donโ€™t know how that would be unrealistic

Fair enough, J8F has more effective countermeasures. The rest though still stands. J8F has to lock up targets in STT while the rest donโ€™t.

From what I know PL12 is actually a better missile than the AIM120 A variant alt least, maybe even the C. PL12 is a brand new missile by the early 21st century and it has the same designing approach of R77 or MICA that focus on maneuverability at close range.It also has a bit more delta-V that the Aim120 to allow them go a bit further and faster. This is not gonna be whatโ€™s in the game of course, if it was similar to last playtest.

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Where can I see leaks?

Dude, the devstream starts in 15 minutes

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For the next time?

As someone who has played both, they have their advantages and disadvantages, but the J-8F is definitely the better performer, no question. To put it into perspective, the F-4F is 10.7 while the J-8F is 11.7.

Look at datamines or something.

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