That’s when you do face 14.0s, because right now, 14.0s get constantly uptiered, I didn’t ask it to be meta because even with triple amraam racks the F-16 PoBit still wouldn’t be more meta than the Typhoon or Su-30SMs, where are you pulling this out from?
It’s only cheap when SAAB fudges numbers. They are a better marketing/sales department than they are a production team.
Because it has, it’s just not in the form of a “big red button” as it’s not a literal kill switch, but it’s far more than just stopping parts. Namely, the fact that the US contols weither or not they fly as their computer systems are fully US controled for all but one nation.
In order to do anything with the F-35, you need the US permission(something that’s an issue if you been following current events), so having an alternative is good, heck any F-35 user that has yet to fully replace their fleet with it has decided to use something else or switch to keeping the other aircraft in service.
Iirc the YF-23 was beating the F22 in nearly all categories it was the fact Northrope was falling under which made the Air Force skeptical that they could produce the YF-23 for full scale production no?
Lockheed was simply a safer option with an very similar proposal for a stealth jet.
british waiting for the meteor to be implemented on the f35 for years now because of that
It’s fighter economics(or F1 cars if that’s your thing) it’s Monopoly money.
Imagine if they had the foresight to make all 750
I won’t deny them doing shady stuff, I know they’ve been caught doing it, but realistically based on the current known parts and what’s available there more parts available on the market for basic repairs and long term maintenance. Real problem is SAAB are the only ones setting up these supply deals with Brazil which slows progress down since they take forever to come to a agreement on what to buy and how much.
Proper peak right there, I’ll glaze the hell out of the coolest stealth jet.
Besides looks are the main factor for me, the YF-23 screams future compared to the YF-22
nah the foresight was to cut production, the f22 was right on the cusp of a bunch of new technology that hadnt been integrated on it, and wouldve bloated the cost of it further if they had been, the cutting of it, and switch to f35 was the better option
No, there would be more incentive to upgrade the bigger fleet and economies of scale would reduce overall operating costs and improve availability
That’s been debunked, I’m at work currently and can’t go get all the stuff I’ve seen myself but if you dig enough you’ll find that the YF-22 was a more complete prototype, the YF-23 also didn’t have as many test hours compared to the YF-22 and realistically it only really beat the 22 in range (due to more fuel capacity) and slightly better radar cross section but the difference was so minimal it didn’t really matter.
Tell me SAAB didn’t copy the YF-23

Honestly never thought about how similar they looked
Starscream?
The British had far more issue then just that. From what I hear, the British F-35 stuff was meant to be close to the Israeli one with domestic control over the computer systems, but well…
Oh I know it was a nightmare part of that being Northropes money problems and such but idc, I just like the YF-23.
Kinda like how I prefer the F14 over the F15. Yeah the F15 could go mach 50 do 100G turns and I still wouldn’t care. I just like the Tomcat. Same logic applies to the black widow
Only the G1 version as an F15.
That or Armada was solid
Though when it came to the seekers I prefer Skywarps purple and black F15 camo.
Seriously missed opportunity to paint an F15 like any if the seekers
yeah, economies of scale like with the f35, which services multiple countries and military branches between each of those countries, plus the dev costs were more split between different countries allowing for a more advanced plane for the same cost
I’m a big lover of the YF-23 too, and its render of the would be production variant, the F-23 looks extremely cool
Gonna be honest I’ll give points to the F22 here.
F22 sounds better than YF-22.
And YF-23 sounds better than F-23, it’s like hearing F-47, it just doesn’t have that same ring to it imo.