You aren’t talking about the Killswitch right?
This is the first page which yes talks about the structural reinforcement around hydraulic lines and screws around the landing gear. The magazine continues on to a few other pages talking about the entire program which is where I’m mentioning it.
I just have this page on hand as I’m not at my PC to link the doc
I didn’t mention the Bulkhead modifications as that wasn’t the part of the program I was referring to.
Every airframe eventually gets something like this, if it’s left in service long enough.
It’s to counteract the metals fatigue and extend available hours(particularly if it’s carrying heavier loads frequently in this case), not some cold weather mod.
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Also what do you mean push to buy Euro? Our Air Force and the page literally say that the F16 was great
yeah look at the mirage2000 with micas, 6 good fox3s on a mid airframe and and average radar the f16 essentially outclasses it in all ways other than 2 fox 2’s and that mirage is fine at 14.0.
I see it being a 14.0 maybe moved up to 14.3 if the amraams are really good there’s just two little benefit to have it be 14.3 like the f15c ge. like even the f18e if it gets them will have 10 hobs missile with great nose authority which kinda makes its 14.3 br feel good now if it does receive them as less worry about constantly needing to bleed all your speed to get a nose on shot for the amraams. (I’m basing the f18E thing on how the c late feels as i still haven’t rushed to unlock the f18e.)
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also if dev stream tonight that means dev in like 12to 15 hour s my favorite time of the year. where im not fighting 30 r77-1 from the 4 su30sm2 that kept seeing tiktoks and just ripple all their missiles on one target like an f14 p[layer.
Yes which again is why I didn’t mention the bulkhead. Even our F-35’s got them given their age and since we kept them until the 90’s when we eventually replaced them with the F16, my question was what else could be a potential cause if heated hangers isn’t it? From what I remember I don’t believe it said cold start but until I have access to the rest of the doc I can’t confirm if it mentions cold starts or not.
yellowknife bases operate at minus 45*
doesnt change the fact that f35 have struggles in these temps.
You were the one saying they needed some special engine mod, that magically only exists for European jets and not the same airframes used in the US.
I’m just saying any claim about that necessity is BS, being pushed by someone denigrating US equipment for “some reason”, particularly when lots of those same aircraft have been flown from the same climates for a lot longer.
And in some cases, the exact same bases on TDYs, without some special mod.
why is he so stressed over this the f35 is good, it doesnt need to have perfect everything i feel like ive missed important context.
Below X ambient temperature the relevant aircraft T.O. will have instructions for heating the starting system prior to engine start. And it will also generally have a note that it may require an additional attempt, which is normal operation.
Yes which is why I asked what could cause it as part of the program also included changes for the engine in cold environments.
It could be that some F16’s were left out for prolonged periods for some reason and then needed to be started without being pulled from any of the heated hangers but I can’t say exactly why it mentions it. (In regards to the engin changes)
The magazine doesn’t discredit the F16’s if you had read it so please don’t go off on some psyop tangent. I said that in regard to the presence of something being mentioned in the magazine.
Again all I’m asking is what you think it could be for while trying to rationalize what it may be myself since I can’t read the doc rn.
And? 8 whole degrees makes 0 difference to the aircraft.
faster heating mean faster reaction in interception mission. if the cf188 never does need it.
some mechanics stuff need unique modification to be safe to operate in canada weather.
Using hydraulic pressure to start the JFS, which then starts the engine.
Cold enough and it will take additional “bottles” to start the JFS because the hydraulic fluid is so cold. It means the poor crew chief gets to do an arm workout before startup. Normal operation, when you don’t have a heater cart to warm it up prior to launch.
So could the modification potentially just be an internal system that does this job by chance? Or potentially some sort of covering to keep lines from having problems when exposed to the cold for long periods of time? Perhaps to try and keep some ambient temp around components?
You have no idea what you are talking about.
You mean like at a NORAD base, that shares deployment cycles with US aircraft?
Hey we are getting somewhere
what… your the one blamming oh heated bla bla bla.
cmon f35 is clown to the canada, it does offer little to none.
30k per hout to operate, with canada defense budget. maintenance alone will make canada broke.
weaposn ? trash of what europe could offer.
canada need cheap, easy upgradable and actualy can survive cold no some scam plane who only good thing is stealth.