Major Update "Ninth Wave" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

Not the fastest unless it’s at very high altitude and past mach 1.3, which honestly if you go that high to reach those speeds you’re asking to get swatted by the hundreds of telephone poles, not that everyone even reaches those speeds very often in ARB unless they’re flying the top dogs sticking to high altitude and you can only really stay up there if you got the missile count to compete (or performance to abuse notch and boresight launches like Rafale thanks to TVC fox 3s), which the F-16s do not. Your comparison to the Gripen E falls apart when you realize the 7 BVR missiles the Gripen E gets are coupled with 2 IR missiles, which in the F-16s you take either or, and the average player usually carries 4 amraams and 2 9Ms, or you take full amraams and no IRs, AESA is present even on 13.0 platforms like the Kfir C.10, the F-2 is a prime example of an all round fighter with an AESA and only really lacks HMD (MAWS not really necessary), the JF-17 has MAWS at 13.3. You could argue that sure they’re features that aren’t really combined into a single jet at those lower BRs, but it will never warrant a BR higher than 14.0 when said platform is an F-16, it’s just not competitive beyond 13.7 and that is a fact. So it’s either triple rack amraams or it’s DOA.

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triple rack would be cinema

LMAO this is just flat BS.

You realize not only do US use these Aircraft in Alaska, but at altitude it’s dramatically colder than anywhere at sea level.

Such pathetic Eurocope.

Edit: LMAO flag all you want, still accurate

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Wrong

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Not budget, Stomach.

Because winning is more important than feelings.

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shame they got rid of napalm before they made GPS kits and then wing kits for those GPS kits, would make it way easier to get rid of bombing bases with less weight

oh yeah american time i forget its normally on thursdays for you guys lol

Pathetic? Not really I’m pointing out a fact that they had problems in our weather, and as Quartas stated it may have only been early models.

You didn’t really provide a counter outside of just saying Alaska but that still doesn’t explain. Perhaps the US cut costs on export models to be more cheap, who knows, at least I provided actual evidence for my statement.

Also aren’t you the guy who stated the SLAMRAAM had no help from KONGSBERG, so why should I take you seriously when you’ve proven to not give credible sources? Well outside of Wiki links lmao

4:17AM for me, so not US

The US only got rid of napalm because it became less effective of a way to clear jungle/forest/brush than other methods, which was it’s actual purpose.

ah then it is tonight lol i got confused cause normally its around 10pm-11pm friday night here in australia

what was even better than napalm for clearing vegetation?

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I wonder if they gonna pull a aim-120c-5 and give everyone 120D or its exclusive to the US but really really nerf and is basically a fakour 90 with aim-7f manuverability and range of a aim54C

Idk sounds like you can’t back your claim which is all I’m asking for then if you want to disprove my post.

I’m fine with being wrong but I’m not gonna just accept some guy getting overly hostile and going nuh uh unless he’s gonna have a rational discussion and provide sources for his claim, if you don’t have a source then we can try to discuss rational explanations, not like every question about every niche problem has been well recorded let’s be honest.

I don’t understand. Gripen’s engine has better resistance to the cold than American planes despite using American engines?

Well its already going to the RAAF F-18F, so not US exclusive.

Nations that should 100% get it in addition to the US is Israel and probably Sweden (if they can)

If its not being slapped onto an F-15EX, then the Typhoon and Co will be fine with them just fixing C5s

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Did any Gripens, domestic or foreign even use aim-120D?

I did?

Those aircraft have flown from decades from US bases in Alaska (same as F-35s btw, cope Griper), which has worse weather than the Nordics.

And I personally have launched US aircraft in Sub-Zero temps, no problem.

What have you done?

You’d have to ask Saab for the Gripen E I don’t think any modifications for environmental stuff is public info unlike the Gripen C. Which has documentation of it receiving tuning during the Gripen A development for handling low temp weather.