Major Update "Ninth Wave" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

The “Norwegian Propulsion Stack” contains some special Control Actuator System developed by Kongsberg, but that’s all I can find currently lol

many thing weren’t probably ready either, like AS90 or Eitan, which i remember they said were either rushed to “completion” or partially unfinished

I just hope we see a lot of tasty bugfixes in the patchnotes tomorow (852ps Chieftain when please, and L23 being deleted as a whole, as its fake)

or Crusader armour (underperforming by a staggering amount, would require it reclassified as a medium tank)

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Because they use a different way of emulating dual plane maneuvering on most missiles, including the regular AMRAAMs

The AMRAAM ER seems to be a special case

DING DING DING DING DING DING we have a WINNER!

The ESSM on which the AMRAAM-ER is based on has thrust vectoring. So that’s why the AMRAAM-ER has it too. Although I can’t say of the top of my head there is specific mention of thrust vectoring in regards to the AMRAAM-ER, it may be possible they removed this feature, but no explicit mention means it just gets it due to ESSM.

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Didn’t know about the ESSM, but it does seem like the AMRAAM ER actually uses the same (but probably altered) back-end portion as the ESSM, just with a AMRAAM seeker on the front-end portion

At least that’s what the few sources I found say lol

Usually we see a lot of bug-fixes in March updates if history is anything to go by but I would honestly hold your breath when it comes to ground vehicles just cause ground devs are pretty bad in terms of prioritizing historical reports.

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Actually now that it is mentioned again. I think the AMRAAM-ER is actually not supposed to have thrust vectoring, but I don’t have documents or anything to prove it. But supposedly the extra unit on the exhaust (the black part) is a TVC unit. This unit is only seen on the VLS variant of the ESSM in order to orientate fast.

This can be further confirmed by the lack of TVC vanes at the exhaust of the non VLS variant (which the AMRAAM-ER also is):

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I guess have fun whoever wants to nerf NASAMS, but idk if Gaijin will accept it based on just this. The image I sent does point towards the extra unit at the exhaust though.

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I want to wake up tomorrow and see the opportunity to remove excess fat from TES/OES on DEV 🙏

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Well, unfortunately, we will all wake up tomorrow and most likely have to start making bug reports and “suggestions” for vehicles.

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Interesting…

Either way, it seems like they based the flight characteristics of the AMRAAM ER on the ESSM

Even if it actually shouldn’t have TVC in-game, I believe it would still keep the higher overload due to the improvements that the so called “Norwegian Propulsion Stack” is supposed to provide

always a roll of the dice

I hope it’s a natural 20 this time round

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i mean that sort of fin setup has been around for decades so im guessing its pretty good. but then again, a dedicated AAM should also be pretty good

Welp, I found documentation a bit easier than I thought… so sadly I will probably report it when I have time.

The G overload itself is entirely due to the fins however, not the TVC unit. The TVC (Jet Vane Control, JVC, system) is jettisoned after orientation is complete, in which it is unlikely to be pulling maximum G load since it has yet to accelerate fully.

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Just hang in there a little bit longer boyos, just any time now…

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Makes sense

Let’s hope that losing TVC doesn’t end up being a huge nerf, even though it shouldn’t affect the missiles flight characteristics post launch at all

(if they even get rid of the TVC, that is)

I actually also realized it may not technically be reportable since the game gives no info on whether a missile has thrust vectoring or not, and datamines are not accepted. Don’t have the NASAMS yet either, but even then I’m not sure if TVC missiles even visually thrust vector or not to confirm it in game.

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is the schedule posted yet?

Nope, we just know it’ll be tomorrow

Is the in-game model of the WM-23 missing the wheel covers when the landing gear is retracted? Or are they not supposed to be fully covered?


The WM-23 in War Thunder.

In all of these images/depictions of the WM-23, it has the extra outer wheel covers that allow the wheels to be fully covered when retracted:
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In these however, it does not have this extra wheel cover, so the wheels are slightly exposed when retracted:


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I’m not sure about this image, I don’t see the extra outer wheel cover on the wing, but it could be there but hidden by the shadow:
WM-23 real image with normal photo quality

The question is did they model it right or wrong?