Major Update "Line of Contact" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

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Demand? Then could you please address the serious issue of British vehicles being massively over-tiered in matchmaking?

For example:
The only differences between the Challenger 2E and the Challenger 2 are less than 200 extra horsepower and a commander’s thermal imager, yet their BR difference is a staggering 1.0!!! Is this reasonable? And I believe that if weight classes continue to stretch further in the future, you’ll still keep widening the BR gap between them.

Also, the F-111C vs. the F-111F—the F-111C has significantly weaker engines and weaponry, yet they share the exact same BR!!!

Harrier GR.7 vs. AV-8B+: They have identical ground RB, but the AV-8B+ has HD thermal imaging, an all-aspect radar, and AIM-120 missiles—advantages the GR.7 lacks entirely.

And speaking of the AV-8B+, we must mention the most absurd case of identical BR despite an enormous performance gap:
Sea Harrier FA.2 vs. AV-8B+: They share the exact same BR in both Ground and Air RB, yet the AV-8B+ utterly dominates the Sea Harrier FA.2 in nearly every aspect— the Sea Harrier FA.2 has far worse airframe performance, vastly inferior air-to-air weapon loadout, and the AV-8B+’s ground attack capability absolutely crushes the Sea Harrier FA.2 by orders of magnitude…

Where NASAMS 3 dovbleg?

Please leave feedback for BRs on the feedback topics for BR updates when they appear. This is not the place.

Hello @Smin1080p_WT , thanks for all the responses.

Do you know if it has been decided if the Premium Su30-MKK will receive Russian or Chinese Missiles?
I know there’s a response to a report where a developer said they have internal evidence that it is capable of using Chinese PL8 and PL12 missiles but as far as I know it still has Russian missiles on the dev server.

Also will it be available for pre-order soonTM?

Right here [Development] NASAMS 3: Norwegian & American Air Protection! - News - War Thunder

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I dont necessarily have issue with that as we should have the vastly superior defensive suite and technically better multirole (4x AIm-9M + 4x AGM-65 vs their 2x Aim-9M + 4x AGM-65) but I am annoyed we still dont have our 6x AGM-65 fit and BOL still isnt fixed

Same here, should be fine, they have strengths and weaknesses, just FA2 is artificially nerfed unncessarily.

I agree with some of the other points though.

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Final loadouts are still being decided. This one is unlikely to be a pre-order.

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so when the next BR change will arrive?

Certainly not before this major.

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Dev extended until monday.

My bet for the Gripen E to be added.

Same

Su-35S would be at least slightly worse than the SM2 with the same engines.
Different engines, Su-35 is probably better.

Also it wasn’t given to Soviets because of the MKM.
Your post is blatant ragebait.

It takes months to years to bring vehicles into a video game.

The manufacturer also claims Su-30 and Su-35.
MKM is also a 2019 iteration of the aircraft, even newer than Su-30SM which itself is a year newer than Su-35, which itself is newer than the Su-30 cited in one of the documents.

Of course there are zero double standards on this issue.

I know where your problem lies. Radar has more than one mode. It has a staring mode and a normal mode. If we compare the staring mode of 150 with that of 400, multiplying by 2 is unreasonable. However, if we refer to the normal mode, which means the radar beam is not concentrated, the N011M at 100 is almost twice that of the N035 at 220.

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Mkm was delivered half a decade to the Malaysian Air Force before the su-30sm in the mid 2000s. Much older than the su-30sm

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The original MKM is, yes. However, it underwent an upgrade program in 2019.

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Did not know that, interesting

are we going to get a “real” challenger 3 at some point

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a real challenger3 vs Leopard 2A8

that’s a sad story