They have multiple AESA air defence radars, some of which are meant to detect stealth aircraft. They also have domestic SAM meant as counterpart to S-400
Well, I guess it is more accurate to say they had
I say watch from the start of the series ; P
also why are we even arguing about production numbers…? because I think its safe to say that both the J-20 and F-35 will continue to be produced faster then the Su57 especially if the Su57 only has a single operator outside of russia
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Yup, definetly!
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As long as the discussion is about combat effectiveness and doesn’t go anywhere else there should be no problem
The only one that is close to the SU57 production number might be F15EX, seems these manufacturers got some trouble lmao
What about all the other advanced eagle airframes theyve been making?
The EX first flew 2021 and only just entered service in late 2024
Boeing is also shifting a lot of focus to making the F-47
Still using over 4 years, remember the EX is just a part of the Advanced Eagle program, which is just based on improving F15SA. After 3 years of manufacturing, only 9 were delivered out of 104 planned, which is even worse than SU57 or some kinds of destroyers’ production numbers.
For F-47? I prefer their artistic rendering because they finally accept Canard Delta.
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The Su57 first flew in 2010 15 years ago… if we wanna give them the benefit of the doubt it entered service in 2020 so five years and its estimated that 22 MAYBE 30 planes have entered service so thats 4-6 planes a year meaning the F-15EX has a higher unit per year
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su-57 first flew in 2020 dawg what are you talking about. You’re confusing t-50 and su-57
Currently it looks like there are plans for Scorpion HMD, IRDS (Infrared Defensive System), TacIRST, and stealth fuel tanks and sensor pods.
There are also most likely more upgrades planned for the Raptor like more sensor upgrades but not much else has been announced or seen yet.
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the T-50 are the Su57 prototypes most plane first flights are in fact their prototypes, so no it flew in 2010 unless your telling me the T-50 isnt the Su57 prototype
hell even if you want to be pedantic and take the entery date on unit production the F-15EX is still better with again 9 units in a year vs 4-6
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They have all been test airframes until very recently
Could see a stealth coating overhaul and small engine improvements as well as operational AIM-260
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they build 9 units in 3 years
that makes it 3 units a year and not 9 in one year
then they have built 22-30 su57s in 15 years lmao it can go both ways either way its worse then the F-15EX
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it has cheek radars (and possibly even a radar inside the tail) to guide missiles while notching or even going cold (great advantage) while f22/35 only have the good old 60± azimuth
Would you call the yf-22 the same as the f-22? Yf-16 the same as the f-16?
Well their goes our chance for that leaked Iranian sub lol
Iranian submarines should not be leaking.
It’s not good for them.
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