Major Update "Leviathans" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

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that does not compensate anything for air to air tho we lost a really significant capability right here, and also leave that weapons for the Ra´am Python-4 should be added to compensate the huge loss for air to air combat.

did it? hadnt seen that yet, glad to hear it

Report that Bismarck has more than 708mm pen, Gaijin statement “Penetration is calculated with de marre formula with correct range table. Not a bug.”

Then you go to Calculation of Armour Penetration | War Thunder Wiki and enter the data there. Even after their calculation the pen is not correct (Ingame 708mm)
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Next big defense spending thing hopefully

I hope this is fixed.

Bismarck’s 380mm shells are currently worse than any other at the BR; all others have 740-770mm pen ranges.

And I hope, of course, that the shell fix doesn’t come with a rate of fire nerf. I would rather have it placed at 8.7 if they considered it’s fixed firepower to be “too OP” for 8.3.

except the rework was somehow an actual nerf?
Need to check the numbers myself, but i’ve read it pulls slightly more than A/Bs, lofting harder and it has more drag. With that i have genuine doubts if its an upgrade, its a sidegrade at best, even a downgrade on medium to long ranges.

“Defense”… “Spending”? That exists??

Yeah, I think a couple billion could get 32k lbf+ engines on every F100/110 jet in US service

Quite a charming response from glabblabskibidibopjob❤️

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I consider +/- 0.3 close enough to compare

Problem is its not just the F-18Cs getting it, the F-15Es are aswell and that is a pretty capable airframe already with 120A/B. Morvran while I love to disagree with him has a point here especially about sim where it had finally begun to level out between REDFOR and BLUEFOR. Now its going to go back to being BLUEFOR sided meaning no free slots on BLUEFOR teams and a suffer fest for REDFOR which will drive all but the most skilled or stubborn away after a few deaths which was the case pre 30SM, (And to an even greater degree pre J-10A and Rafale since france sometimes gets put on REDFOR)

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Yeah, 14.0 was just starting to get more interesting than Typhoon Vs Typhoon/Rafale every match (no matter how much I find the Su30 annoying to fight, it was at least asymmetrical) but now I’m thinking it will be going back to that again

New Devblog

Enjoy the squads of F-15Es dictating combat and cleanup squads of F-18Cs, Gonna try to get my 30SM performance spaded then pick up the F-2 premium and just abandon 14.0 for the time being. Hopefully it will get better but I doubt it will.

Wow, USAF and USN working together?

Are you seriously going to change the baz meshupar again?
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Why are you going to do this again with the plane?

Imagine if the aim9x was added to all capable planes this update too, the forums would be wild

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Well rightfully so it would be completely broken without equivalents

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yeah its similar for me, cant play 13.0 ground due to terrible balancing, cant play 14.0 air due to terrible balancing its looking more and more like im probably just gonna dip on wt for the next 2 months