Major Update "Leviathans" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

Oh yeah, I get that 100%. I am bitter over things in the past, like XM8 and CCVL, or the fact that we only got one dedicated missile launcher as a squadron vehicle.

Tell me there isn’t russian bias when gaijin nerfed iris t then buffed kh-38ml to have gnss LMAOO

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It’s just the fact this is the second unique Swiss thing that’s a premium, I can understand the first since it’s a 3rd party but still

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Israel is the only nation that, for years now, has had no hint of a future sub-tree, not even in leaks.

At least there have been leaks suggesting that the US might get SK, and the USSR has already been receiving Czechs vehicles. Germany subtree was confirmed to be Switzerland, and China will likely get Pakistan.

At this point, among all the nations that do need a subtree, Israel is the only one where we truly have no clue whats going to happen. The tech tree feels completely abandoned. The air tree hasn’t even received a single new aircraft in the mid or low tiers since its release.

Smin said they arn’t a sub as they would of announced it like the rest

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Oh I absolutely get it, I feel the same way. I mean look at the last couple updates for Israel. It’s gotten like one thing every update and that’s it, last update was just absolutely ridiculous. One vehicle per update is extremely disappointing. I said it before and my post was flagged by the community, so I’ll be a little nicer this time. More attention needs to be brought to the development sector of War Thunder, that’s all I will say.

I never said they were either. I’m just pointing out that the USSR has been getting Czech vehicles, at least giving us a clue about what its subtree could be.

With Israel, we dont have a single hint.
Not even one. Theres absolutely no indication of what its subtree might be, or if its even going to get one at all.

Exactly
you said it yourself. I stopped spending money on Israel a while ago too.

I put my money where there are clear signals, and Gaijin just hasn’t given any promising signs when it comes to Israel. Honestly, at this point, it just doesn’t feel worth it.

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Who bent the tail?

Don’t mock it it’s got scoliosis

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I see the French broke the Forums again

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Or complaining about Anton’s new boat lol

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@Smin1080p_WT It was said on the Russian dev stream that France and Italy will receive SAMP/T as their next SPAA, is that still the case?

Always them…

(Joking)

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no matter how many times you ask, why would the devs change their mind

:) gotta love it

There hasnt been a good sub tree addition since they added South Africa. And every sub tree they added after SA got progressively worse and worse.

All the actually Unique vehicles theses sub trees could get are pass up in favor of being made into event vehicles and premiums or just forgotten about entirely.

South Africa itself has been completely sidelined in favor of India it feels with the only actually new vehicles they have received in the last year or so being the superhind. They have yet to add any South African aircraft outside of the Gripen which was just an easy hand me down because they were adding it to Sweden at the same time.

A vast majority of Finlands unique vehicles are locked behind an event or premium wall or just not present entirely (there are several Patria options they could have added day one)

The Benelux tree is just Germany 2.0 shoved into france because gaijin likes to add actual French vehicles at a literal snails pace.

Indias entire existence in the game so far has just been Russian copy and paste thrown into the british Tree with their one actual unique vehicle being an event (Marut), and i can hazard a guess that stuff like the HAL Tejas and Arjun will end up as an event or premium as well.

The Swiss subtree looked promising but with C-3604 being a premium i am expecting it to end up largely the same as Finland which is disappointing because MOWAG has a bunch of interesting options to add to the game.

Overall while subtrees sound like a neat Idea they have been executed abysmally and in all honesty most of these sub trees would have worked better as a half tree in the same fashion israel is done over anything else.

It’s just massively disappointing all of it…

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I just feel like that won’t ever happen because it would make CAS boring and as much as we might not like it CAS is a part of the game and a valid playstyle. What they really need to do is nerf the CAS outliers and make it more rewarding SP wise to take down aircraft so that you can spawn in your own aircraft and counter CAS as aircraft is and always will be the best counter to CAS.

Mirage IIIS isnt a unique plane?

@Smin1080p_WT Is it possible to check up on this bug report. The bug report manager it seems like didn’t get to the correct page.
[DEV] FB10A should have dual guidance (ir + update command/saclo // Gaijin.net // Issues
The website of the manufacturer specifically states IR + update command.
FB-10A

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