Major Update "Leviathans" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

[141_allen]

Seem to change everything but range.

[Smugspite]

yeah I have no idea what gaijin is on to think only the F-15s and F/A-18s need them, im fine with this just give the EFT better dog fight missiles (IRIS-T and ASRAAM)

[Morvran]

If it was F-18 only, and they werent getting 1200 BOL as well (I have to assume they all will eventually) then maybe. But F-15E. Its a joke. Especially with no radar fixes, no Brimstone 2. No Spear-3. Not even a Striker I bug fix

[Deathmisser]

Nope

[141_allen]

What inherently is wrong with the air frame as u mentioned before. I know about the radar.

[_Renzo]

@Morvran

If it was F-18 only, and they werent getting 1200 BOL as well (I have to assume they all will eventually) then maybe.

There is no maybe, the F/A-18C was mediocre at BVR. There is really 0 problem with that thing getting the C-5. F-15 is a lot more conflicting though.

And only 1 Hornet is getting the BOL launchers. Also you guys were always the one saying BOL was mediocre anyway.

[Deathmisser]

Please use English here

[Morvran]

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[MythicPi]

@Smin1080p_WT

Eurofighter and Rafale are currently some of the best performing air-to-air aircraft in game currently. But consideration for other aircraft to receive AIM-120C-5 is still underway.

If thats the case, any idea why gaijin decided to buff the MICA again with update 2.46.0.16?

[Morvran]

@_Renzo

There is no maybe, the F/A-18C was mediocre at BVR. There is really 0 problem with that thing getting the C-5.

It really depends on the seeker imo. if its the same seeker as the B, then yes, if its a lot harder to defeat both kinematically and with notch/chaff then it could be a major issue as it has 10.

@_Renzo

And only 1 Hornet is getting the BOL launchers.

So far*

We have no idea if its planned for the rest but just not ready.

@_Renzo

Also you guys were always the one saying BOL was mediocre anyway.

Yes and no. Yes it is, when you only have 2, like on the Viggen, Tornado or even Typhoon. 4 is a little better on the Gripen or Harrier, because you can spam even more, but 8? Is kinda insane.

Also

This

It's time for Gaijin to finally reverse the ahistorical nerf to BOL countermeasures [Poll]

With the Leviathans Update introducing Imaging Infrared (IIR) anti-aircraft missiles in the form of IRIS-T and AIM-9X it is time for the Gaijin to revert the ahistorical nerfs that they made to BOL countermeasures and restore their effectiveness to at least pre-nerf levels. poll Wait what on earth are BOL countermeasures? BOL is a type of countermeasures (chaff / flare) dispenser which fits into the rear of a missile launch rail, allowing a large number of countermeasures to be carried in space…

If BOL actually get fixed? Then it becomes quite a major deal and I am also concerned that F-18s gettng 8x BOL will mean the aircraft with 2 will have to suffer because they dont want to deal with balancing the F-18

[Deathmisser]

So looks like the Yukikaze was the only thing added glad to know a ship is almost a gb in size lol

[SPANISH_AVENGER]

Oooooh… that explains it, hahah.

I can stop looking for stuff for now, then!

[Shin_Kazama]

@Smin1080p_WT Sorry to ping you and ask a question like this, seeing as the Swiss F-5E has the Sergeant Fletcher 275 gallon drop tanks, is it in the dev’s plans to either add them to the other F-5Es and F-20, or at least replace their 150 gallon drop tanks with them (since it’d be more accurate)?

[_Renzo]

@Morvran

It really depends on the seeker imo. if its the same seeker as the B, then yes, if its a lot harder to defeat both kinematically and with notch/chaff then it could be a major issue as it has 10.

It’s still launched from a Hornet, which usually launch from lower altitude and with less speed (for obvious reasons), which makes that it’s missiles have less energy and are easier to kinematically defeat to begin with.

[ILuvAnneHathaway]

Well, for starters, they changed the 3D model

[Morvran]

Which is fine for say F-18 vs F-15 or Typhoon with AIm-120B.

But F-18 vs J-11? Gripen C? Etc etc does change the equation a bit. Because AIm-120C5s on the F-18 fired at the same alt as say a Gripen with Aim-120B? Is probably not far off in terms of energy, but the the C5s pull more Gs and the Gripen might find itself defending against 10. Especially the F-18 might be able to do an Su-30 and just shoot down incoming AMRAAMs in a pinch

[Nino_2018]

I would buy it if they would fix this hole thing,
Stealth is not working like with the F-117, and I know that the RAH-66 is not completly invisible but it doesn’t even work on range like it should, Every SAM with a Radar ingame can see that Thing even at 20km though trees.
It also misses weapons, like the AGM-114K, since the 114B wasn’t even in prodction anymore at the time the Progamm was at its peak, from the article Stingers and Hydras are confirmed as well as the better T800 engines, but also where is the RWR and Flares/Chaff, which it also had. Of couse now after the new SAMs they could give give the RAH-66 as well as the other 3 Top Tier Helis the AGM-114L, since it won’t be that OP, from what they say the Kh-38MT is also not OP so why not.

[_Renzo]

True but that is also why those planes are 13.7 instead of 14.0. As it currently is the Hornet falls in between 2 BRs. It’s too bad to really be 14.0 but it’s also too good to be 13.7.

Gaijin’s options were either to move the Su-30SM, F-15E/I, EFT and Rafale to 14.3 and leave the F/A-18C at 14.0, or give the F/A-18C better capabilities and keep it at the same BR as the others. It’s clear now which option they have in mind.

[_OceanFish]

Because it will change nothing overall, it’s not like it will help doing much kill, it’s a waste of energy for the mica in most situation.

[General_Efin_Lee]

Cant give it Hellfire Longbows as a pack premium as it would then be a top tier premium instead of a high tier one, thus by Gaijins own rules cant be a pack vehicle