Major Update “Leviathans” — DEV Server Changelog (16.06.2025) - dev server is closed

“Guys! But other people said so!”

This isn’t an issue of the Su-30SM, which does play a role in the bigger issue, but the issue is in the Kh-38MT. It’s an IR guided AGM with far too much range that has come under scrutiny for being paper, Gaijin initially doubling down and giving it to the Su-30SM and Su-34, which are a strike aircraft and fighter respectively, thus not effecting eachother’s SP cost, is the major issue. Gaijin refuses to remove it, but rather chooses to give an already fake missile things it never had.

“Forum’s Gaslight” is commonly where bug fixes come from, and even then ingame stats will shoe you just how much the Kh-38MT overperforms. The Su-30SM might not do well in ARB, but it is disgusting in ground

(Sorry if you were using sarcasm and I just completely overlooked it, I’m horrible at picking up on tone in text)

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What? That gotta be photoshopped right?

Such as the SLAMRAAM?

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Fr slamraam still has 9X

No they have GNSS now

My god… Why?! This is so unfair now. There are literally no docs about dual mode kh38 crap, only separate versions

For anyone that doesnt know what that means - they can shoot without ANY LINE OF SIGHT AT ALL, they can shoot behind a hill literally making it LOAL.

Absolute fkn bias. FnF brimstones got rejected cuz of that but kh38 hell no. They even ignored 9k reply thread like it was nothing and proceed to buff without any proof. GJ to whoever modeled that

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Since we are getting a much needed SPAA update, can someone nudge the devs to give the older SPAA their CLOS automatic guidance modes?
They should operate like SARH but u cant notch or chaff the missile, at least for rolands.

@Smin1080p_WT
Sorry to bother but youre the main man 😅

I cant download the client if the site is down, been trying for 3 hours now.

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Doesn’t even benefit the MT, ML however

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/VmDVm6m2gZxP

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I took all the screenshots, the ones without GNSS listed are from the War Thunder Wiki, the ones with GNSS listed is from the dev server.

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Pretty sure all Kh-38 missiles regardless of seeker head has GNSS guidance? It’s not exactly useful for the IR guided one unless the target literally sits there while it’s fired in POINT but for laser guided one yeah that’s a neat buff to have

There was a whole discussion about it, however the export company did list a version without the sat guidance as an option.
https://roe.ru/production/aviatsionnaya-tekhnika-i-vooruzhenie-vozdushno-kosmicheskikh-sil/aviatsionnye-sredstva-porazheniya/upravlyaemye-sredstva-porazheniya/aviatsionnye-upravlyaemye-rakety-obshchego-naznacheniya-klassa-vozdukh-poverkhnost/kh-38mle/?theme=theme-lightblue

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It could perhaps be useful if it allows it to be fired in GNSS mode without having “point” lock. i.e; select area on map to fire it towards from 40+ km away and then it locks LOAL with IR if it finds a target in the selected area on it’s way there. So if that is the case it’s effectively increasing the range.

But i doubt they have added that functionality since they have denied it in the past for many other things.
If LOAL is off the table then it just makes the precision better for any IOG+GNSS portion of the flight (i think, i might be misremembering).

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You have to wonder where they would get the source for that…

I think most sources i’ve seen so far mentions GNSS for all of the versions of KH38. This thread has a lot of info and sources: (The Kh-38MT may not actually exist).

Man… Its specifically listed in specs of the missile. Its called dual-mode which it LACKED on their website. They literally spit in our faces when they said LOAL FnF brimstones would be unfair and unbalanced but if its russian then its fine.

This missile already broke top tier and yet it needed this “balanced” buff

Still in pretty horrid taste of the devs to buff the best AGM in-game in an update meant to fix the “CAS problem”.

Pretty par for the course on gaijins end to just give russia the single best answer to the new SAM’s before the patch even drops tho lmao.

Gaijin took one look at the Kh-38MT thread and thought “Yanno what the community wants/needs rn? A Kh-38MT buff :)”

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Merkava’s APS still not working

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Too bad i still haven’t seen a credible source for the MT itself.

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Interesting thing is you can see almost all decals now, even dmm and China exclusives.
Wondering if it’s intentional.