I’m pretty sure they’re more widely available, even China should have them with MKK?
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On one hand, TVC is a crutch that allows people to nose point in a close nose-nose fight, but it is easily combatted with good energy management and jinking, if the Raptor throws himself into an aggressive AoA with TVC, he will need to allow the jet a small recovery window in which the EFT can easily capitalise.
To end this debate before it gets out of hand, I respect the Raptor and it’s capabilities, but worshipping it as this omnipotent fighter which is the best at everything, simply looks childish, if the key takeaways from the Raptor are ‘oh he can just thrust vector bro’ then it really won’t be anything special to fight, especially in the hands of your average US main
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yeah, and this isnt like we are requesting some super unbalanced thing to go on the aircraft. we just want to first off, a reason to BUY the aircraft. second off, defend yourself in battles. good luck with 60 countermeasures and the harrier II airframe (which, wouldnt even be a problem if the AV8B(NA) DIDNT HAVE 180!!), not having the GAU-12 is enough of a reason to give the T.10 the BOL, let alone the heavier and slower airframe.
“but muhhh balance” litterally play your own game, find out the harrier II kind of needs the BOL to be relevant. give the T.10 the BOL. people buy your product because the MAW system becomes useful, and in turn, the aircraft becomes ONPAR with the american one
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This whole patch is a shambles, they’ve made questionable decisions before but this many, in one patch, this bad, I don’t think I’ve seen before, it’s genuinely atrocious.
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Considering you will be fighting F-16s and IRCCM missiles, with 3 missiles and 60 flares (plis the chaff) is just abhorrent for an 11.3, and it’s spitting in the face of the people who have been asking for this for years (which is Smin’s justification for gaijin adding the T10 over a GR5)
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Kh59M was apparently fielded with Su-24M. The Kh59MK could probably be used by single seat jets, MiG-27K
funny part is they wanted to sell an F16 for israel… it gets 3x the countermeasures as the tech tree Netz.
“BUT MUHH BALANCE” yeah right. cherry pick what gets what in each tech tree and each premium
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I completely agree on that, a Raptor will still have a hard time agaisnt a skilled EFT pilot, they’re both very capable aircrafts. I am just saying that looking at the capabilties of both, the F-22 has got more chances to win. But yeah, after all a dogfight is very random.
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The fact that they aren’t even willing to buff/adjust the tt netz just shows a complete lack of regard for people who have actually grinded the tech trees, favouring changes to premiums purely in a drive for money I imagine
I will post this image again when the “development” team at Gaijin add BOL to the 2 dedicated air to air pylons on the T.10
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Yes:
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More likely for hell to freeze over than get a good “balance” decision.
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Like the EFT guys?
They are their own can of worms
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I don’t even understand their thought process, giving the T.10 BOL would make it sell far better, what is the point in releasing such a premium, if there is so little reason for many to buy it.
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They are for the Su-34/24M and Su-30SM.
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can you just change it to another variant? not to be mean or something but the premium is barely any differant then the TT version
Das Queztion nobody’s askin’ … Super Tomcat, when?
and don’t say, “best we can do is a Super Hornet”
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In before someone says cas GRB
It would have made the perfect counter-part to the AV8B(NA) in the American tree for Air, Sim and ground whilst keeping the role the original GR.7 had before it got moved with aim9m
However, for some reason, it gets to have NO BOL. So its essential a heavier, less powerful, much worse and less fun cannon, less countermeasures (phimat give extra chaff but you loose a missile) in comparison to a premium that already sold pretty poorly.
Gaijin finding anyways to make a british premium as undesirable as possible
However, balance concerns are completely ignored with other premiums in other trees, such as the F/A-18C early having a missile upgrade over the tech tree A. The premium netz has more countermeasures then the tech tree netz (apparently, countermeasures balance isnt a thing for that premium, weird? Weird!) The F4S being a MASSIVE upgrade over the F4JUK whist remaining at the same BR.
J7D ruining 9.7 flareless jets… no balance issues there am i right devs hahahhaha
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Despite all the effort, community feedback still goes in one ear and out the other, I don’t expect any changes to be made to any vehicles with balancing concerns mentioned in this thread.
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