Major Update "Hornet Sting" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 4)

Relax no insults lol, however it seems foolish to me as well.

The Trainer airframe is already at a disadvantage and this will make it worse.

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If more CMs count as a ‘balancing decision’ then surely the tech tree Netz can go down to 12.3 right?

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Dont forget its also only got the Mk.105 engine while the AV-8B NA gets the 107

Bigger heavier airframe, worse engine, less counter measures, less weapons = same Br as its british

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Player stats will say it goes up a br too lmao

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And it would still be a lower BR than the GR.7 since it has 9L’s not 9M’s. Also the AV-8B(NA) that is at the same BR get’s 180CM’s, same missiles, and better FM due to it being single seat.

Also BOL CM’s being far weaker than they should be means you need more CM’s to defeat a missile so the increased amount of CM’s with BOL is countered out by the fact that you need to use far more CM’s. So in reality adding BOL to the T.10 would make it equal to the AV-8B(NA). Also since it’s a Harrier and the IR signature is still broken 60CM’s might let you flare maybe 3 or 4 missiles from behind and that’s it.

If it doesn’t get BOL it should be dropped in BR.

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Yeah I seriously doubt that. I don’t see them putting it lower than the FRS.1 and AV-8S Late?

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so its got LESS thrust the the AV8B NA, LESS countermesures, ITS HEAVIER, WORSE Air-To-Ground.

but no BOL for balance, whist remaining at the same BR

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Correct

It should be an event vehicle.

Same amount of CMs, equivalent FM, same amount and type of missiles, they are both pretty similar

Yep, so why would they put a similar aircraft at a lower BR?

Both the FRS.1 and 8S Late are 11.0

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those are 11.0

If this was 11.0, i would have no complaining.

But the CM has called “balance” whilst having it be considerably worse EVEN if it got the BOL at 11.3

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11.0 is more warranted than my initial suggestion, however harriers really aren’t anything special at that BR anyway

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It’s planned to receive Phimat. So it will have 60 internal + 216 Chaff.

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Screw it a perfect 11.3 premium would be a post Falkland’s Gr.3 with AIM9Ls, AGM 45 Shrike, and Phimat

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I guess thats a start, but BOL seems like a more realistic, appropriate and balanced option

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Thats cool,

BOL for the heavier, slower, less thrust, worse air-to-ground version of the 11.3 american version (or br drop to 11.0)

i assume you want people to pre-order this right?

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People spesifcally asked for a Harrier premium for the British tree with guided ordinance like the AV-8B NA . Making it an event negates that purpose.

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Why not add an actual combat aircraft that fits what the players asked for?
Say the 107 fitted Gr.5 that was an experimental aircraft.

The Trainer Harrier is pretty niche.

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Does this harriers have the rearwards MAW?

The AV-8B NA has 180 CM (the closest equivalent) and similar loadouts, the T.10 currently only has 60 at the same BR. The GR.7 is relevant due to being lighter and having IRCC missiles