Eh… I’d say Magic II are harder to defeat than Aim-9M when fired at close range, but Magic IIs will go for flares when fired at longer ranges, whilst Aim-9Ms IRCCM will be equally effective regardless of range. But… with the right tactic can be defeated equally easily at any range.
Which is better really comes down to context. They are different, but to say which is “better” changes rapidly
Sometimes it will. but ive had 9ms ignore BOL pods worth of flares and wack a target from 3km
Do BOL flares work against even SRAAMs?
:P
sneezing works against them
when your target fires in excess of 50 of them while I’m trying to get a lock and my 9m still hits I cant complain about 9m
idk some times BOL works some times it doesnt my only experince with them is on the tomcat which is a hot plane
like 2000F hot
what planes get SRAAM ? GR-1 i know but anything else ?
Harrier GR1 & Hunter F6
It depends on what kind of targets, the engine power directly impact the missile chasing ability, you can easily find that most of time F14B’s BOL doesn’t work, but not for JAS39
this has worked on AV8s su27s eurofighters and F16s. sometimes it is just unflarable
both horrible plat forms nothing supersonic ?
These engines are pretty hot and powerful too, also it depends on the flying status, flares needs to 100% cover the engine or fast enough to escape the lock range to make sure the missiles won’t choose the engine as the hottest target, for long range targets, it is hard than magic2 or pl5e2
Just those two I believe.
Yeah they’re pretty sad planes now, but GR1 was probably the most overpowered plane in WT History when it first arrived lol.
If I recall correctly, they had to bump its BR up literally a day or two after the update, then it went up again a couple weeks later.
not horrible. just insultingly overBR
nothing subsonic as we got sidewinder to replace red tops and things on faster faster aircraft coming into service
be fun if you shoved sraam on like a F4 with agile eagle we could be having fun but no
Honestly, I think both Harrier / Hunter are perfectly fine platforms for SRAAM in terms of flight performance, their big issue is that SRAAM’s force their BR’s to be high enough to face scary missiles themselves, which they have no flares to counter.
If GR1 / F6 had countermeasures they’d be bangers
let me refrase that you need to be doing 500 mph or faster the top speed of a harrier is 700mph or they do spinny
Mirage F1C only lose Magic 2
But Mirage F1C decrease BR to 11.7 for Air AB & Air RB if remove magic 2
Battle rating 15.0 (Air AB, RB & SB) for aircraft top tier in sometime 2026 but this year gaijin might decompression to 14.3 or 14.7
Air-to-Air & Air-to-Ground armament from J-10A, but add PL-8A & the early stand off medium to long-range Air-to-Ground munitions
Who know in PLAAF service J-10B armed PL-12A ?
and just remember. F-14 is probably still colder than the Harriers and the Harriers are getting “hotter” next major update :D
But BOL flares should be like large cailbre flares but with short burn, they are currently like 1/4 standard flares with a short burn
Hunter F6 and Harrier Gr1
harrier is getting buffed, so might be better.
Was a prototype. was slated for F-5s, Tornado, Jaguar, Phantoms, Hawks, etc but never made it into service (there is a bug report in for the Jaguar because of a photo from an airshow)
That and if SRAAMs had their IRL Ranges
it’s a old one, but hard to get at that time I remember.
