Major Update "Heavy Cavalry" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 4)

I downloaded that one :D

“maybe” while Greece and Cyprus operate the Leo and T80 respectively as their MBT. Israel is guaranteed to get either the 2A6HEL or T80 (not sure which model it was) but probably the 2A6HEL

The thing is, other nations keep getting theirs with no point grinding those 3 sooner or later.

and the UK can get more T series through India which is inevitable at this rate, further no point grinding Russia. China less so, practically the only tree left without more copypaste mbt to be added even through subtrees (granted Pakistan seems to be a pure event/premium subtree)

Sweden also has the Finnish Subtree with the 2A4 and 2A6. And if they go further with Norwegian vehicles theres potential of 2A4NO and 2A8

Grass is green, all Nations have their own MBT as a minimum so why even point that out. But both have a 2A4, Italy having the 2A7 and france additionally has the 2A5 and 2A6.

And another possible Indo 2A4+ to be added.

My general rant is about both Air and Ground. Which inevitably is even more bleak with the addition of more and more subtrees to each Nation (besides maybe Russia at this point)

Also my bad for taking this long, typing on a Tablet is ass

Never used in service on su30 etc just like aim 120a on f14b

Well, I hope people get the feeling of naval players constantly getting threatened. so gaijin does not “waste time” on useless players.

In the regard of WT i will misuse it as much as i wish because it fits where the game is going perfectly

You just use it to make your whining less whiny. Let’s not pretend and just call what you’re doing for what it really is.

Well said +1

Probably as a nation selector in the vehicles customization tab.

They were pro-US when they bought them, and then anti-US later on, so it could really go either way. Probably make Venezuela a customization option in both trees.

China leaning, so Pact. Unless there’s anything special about them they’d also be nation selectors for the Oplot and M60 that’d already be stuck in the Pact side. Otherwise foldered under the master copy.

US aligned nations, so NATO. I don’t remember if the Fin T-72 has anything special about it (mechanically not cosmetically), so nation selector for the T-72 already in the NATO tree. T-80 and Mi-28 same deal, although being deleted would be better.

Its really a simple system. Mainly just to organize everything. I suppose there isn’t a huge reason to have separate US and Russia aligned trees for post-war instead of one really big one.

You can call it what you wish, doesn’t make this game any less mid at this point

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“Simple system” but it doesn’t really address the issues other people are also complaining about, and that’s the other side receiving vehicles from one another. So like giving PACT M60s and NATO T-72M1 and T-80U for example.

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We boutta Pax Armata vs NATO with this one

Oh I’m just talking about your misuse of the word slop here, idc about how that relates to your opinion on the whole state of the game.

Anyway my point I’m trying to make is that subtrees are going to stay, and so will this so called “copy paste problem”. More of us want our stuff to be represented ever since subtrees were introduced so you’ll definitely expect to see more minor nations get introduced down the line.

The other side to the “copy paste problem” is also the fact that some nations have 20 variants of the same vehicle and people call it copy paste slop, like the Leopard 2 family for example. There are significant variants of the same family like the 2A4, and people will still call it copy paste slop because “It’s just another Leopard 2A4”. There is literally no winning the community here and everyone has their own divided definition on what “copy paste” actually is.

This is my personal take on the “slop” that people seems to be referring to, and the fact that almost none of the CCs seems to address these issues by looking at both ends of the arguments just tells me that they’re only doing the videos to engagement bait everyone.

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hahahahha lol yea ok, people wont grind the best TT in a lot of BRs because they can find T-80, Abrams, Leos in other TTs

i dont thing they will India isnt even an formal subtree

so still only Leos 2 no other MBT

my point stands 2-3 MBTs being in multiple TT wont stop people grinding them

bruh we still here

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Continuation of this, there’s also a group of people in this community that are meta slaves. Adding new and actually unique vehicles that might not be good also gets called out as slop. When the Hummel was introduced some people were asking “why are you guys adding the Hummel and wasting the time on it when X vehicles can be added?” or other variations like “F-2A is DOA, worse than F-15”. Like guys, you all want unique additions yet can’t get over the fact that some unique vehicles WILL NOT be meta.

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but they wont.

the implementation of the F14D, how its just a sidegrade to the F14B and missing a bunch of stuff

for high tier its basically always

thats a you problem that i dont have control over

nuke thunder is but infantry isnt

and thats the same as i said about the AI reply

@Smin1080p_WT Since currently only the US is getting APFSDS with anti-ERA capabilities, can we expect a new dart for others too that has this feature, maybe 120mm DM63?

Zusammenfassung

As the devs dont believe the current sources prove L27/DM53 anti-ERA capability

Then don’t play inf that simple

I’m aware.

Well not that it really matters. You have to eventually realize not everything will be the way you want it.

Better than ruining the upcoming subtrees??
This why I hate this community.
Suggest a main tree for the subtree, they bitch about it.
Suggest for it to be split instead, they will still bitch about it.

Whethere you like it or not Singapore is going to be split. That’s gaijins final decision as of now. And having 3 people in the forums saying how they rather for it to go to Israel means absolutely nothing to gaijin.

It’s really not when compared to the rest of Israel’s ifvs. It offers nothing of value to what Israel already had, Israel doesn’t need it.
Which is most of the community was begging em to add it to Japan (which they still didn’t listen, so there’s no way in hell they will hear your whining about how it should be Israel’s main subtree.

At that point just don’t add the hunter?
Why ruin two other subtrees for this Singaporean one. No thanks. Sucks for them to be split. But rather that then it affecting 2 other subtrees.
You have to realize why Greece/Cyprus were chosen in the first place. Adding Singapore won’t help Israel as significantly. If at all.