I hope the next update (not the one coming) is only variants.
I want to watch WT Reddit and YouTube burn because people can’t read a wiki page or a history book. Or understand that a vehicle having a different look at a glance means it’s not a 1-1 vehicle like they all think it is.
yeah, the 1A5BE discourse has been depressing to read to be completely honest. I would hate to see the community discourse around a Leopard 1A3, AMX-13-105, or hell the (probably) upcoming Sabre event…
Indeed, this meme weekend hasn’t helped, but I was already growing to relizse these people will call the most unique vehicle in the world C&P just because a BeNeLux nation used it.
There was a post where you could see the 1A5BE and 1A5 next to each other, and you didn’t need to spend any brain power to tell it’s not pure C&P, and a post saying an AMX-30 with a stabilizer would be unique, yet the 1A5BE isn’t, makes me realize how hypocritical they are.
If other nations were held to BeNeLux standards, for this update the SEPv3 is C&P (after all, it’s another Abrams), or every welded hull Sherman with a 75mm gun is C&P (doesn’t matter one is 4.0, same hull type, same gun and same family = C&P to them).
I love that the Aussie abrams or Thai L-39 aren’t copy paste but a unique 1A5 variant is?
Tbf Im pretty sure people called the Italian 1A2 copy paste too
I’ve seen a few call the Aussie Abrams C&P.
But it’s drowned out by those calling the 1A5BE C&P and claiming France is the worst-treated nation because they didn’t get Swiss “joint projects.” And how their sub-tree is the perfect German sub-tree because they used Leos or filled the need-light gap for Germany (which Germany can fill itself between all versions). It doesn’t matter; it gives Germany unlimited access to allied tech, as more of their stuff was to be used against Germany than these “BeNeLux-German joint projects” they think exist (it’s just turrets/guns Belgium put on everything)
As the main author of all currently open bug reports on the Leopard 1A5BE, with several more still in progress, I honestly struggle to see how this could be considered a copy-paste vehicle.
Visually, it already differs significantly from other Leopard 1A5 variants, which is hardly surprising given that the Belgian modernization program was entirely separate from the German 1A5 program and shared virtually no internal components with it.
More importantly, the vehicle’s ammunition selection has the potential to make it stand out even further. If the currently submitted bug reports are implemented, the 1A5BE would gain access to historically documented Belgian-developed ammunition, giving it a much more distinctive identity and gameplay profile compared to its German counterparts.
At the end of the day, it’s the “Leo = C&P” and other “Same Family = C&P” ideas that run rampant, despite how 9/10 times that’s wrong.
Same reason why so many people are quick to call tree suggestions C&P, as they’d just look at 1/3 of a name and call it there.
You don’t have to convince me…
We just hate the tree. I would trade all Benelux and get nothing in return, in fact I can give DF105 too.
Yep, that looks like an Iron Fist.
And I hate playing with noobs, sadly we can’t have everything we want.
We would get F-15E RMP devblog instead, i know it
Its due this week, however no ETA currently. Very unlikely today.
is there anything else planned for today? (so i do not sit the whole day on the forum for nothing)
Dont sit on the forums :)
If there is news, there is news. It will still be here when you check back.
Any news on NOMADS getting SLS missiles?
Is a Leopard 2RI devblog planned too?
Would be a shame if Indonesia faded into the background too much just because most of their planned vehicles weren’t ready.
Fingers crossed for some Dev updates, Nuke Thunder fixes and maybe MiG 29K with no Lava engines!
