Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)


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I’m sure people are way madder than this m8, they won’t take note of an angry note from an ordinary player.

I know I’m not the only one.
I will max out my likes that day.
I will make sure nation bias does not come to War Thunder in any way shape or form.
I will make sure Japan gets at least the treatment Italy is getting.

I love China’s tech tree, and Singapore offers NOTHING to China that they don’t have half a dozen each of.

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The fact that it is not even official news, but just a leak of what’s to come, has already stirred such a violent reaction, one can only imagine how much worse it would be if it is actually accurate.

It is the ONE time I genuinely hope the leakers are wrong about it…

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Aye, Why can’t the people who interviewed BvvD just be happy with Pakistan, Bangladesh and North Korea.

It’s the same as all the other nations who got subs it’s only fair but nope money talk apparently

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4 anti radiation missiles and 9 brimstone ATGMs

Personally, I want a United Korea tree. That being said, China does have viable subtree options like you said.

And as a bit of an aside, it’s important that we not bash Chinese (both those who play China and are themselves Chinese) players. They are just as confused as us, and ultimately, it’s Gaijin’s fault for making such a mind-numbing change

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From what I heard even Chinese players are questioning the decision, because what they want is their vehicles to be represented well and properly, not have foreign nations make up for where they are lacking.

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Yea I’m not having a go at the Chinese community here and the fact they are mad too warms my heart even more, We are mad with BvvD who suddenly changed his mind

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It’s not even money, Chinese people, from everything I’ve seen, don’t want a Singapore subtree. They don’t even want a subtree period and would rather get more domestic vehicles, which becomes harder when Gaijin fills an entire unused lane full of copy paste like they have been doing with the Hungarian air sub tree and BeNeLux. China doesn’t even need a buff vehicle wise, at least to the point where they need a subtree NOW instead of waiting a bit longer for a new lane of Chinese vehicles.

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Yeah, a few of them liked my comment :D

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When we say money, we are not referring to Chinese players shilling at Gaijin, we are referring to something a lot sinister behind the scenes.

How is it that Southeast Asia was rumoured to be for Japan, suddenly got changed to be for China? I’m not implying anything else here, but it is undeniably fishy.

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Honestly, my guess is that either Gaijin felt backlash from putting ASEAN nations into Japan, so, in ignorance over modern SEA politics, put them in China, OR has been intending to give China ASEAN countries aligned more with China and Japan the ones aligned more with the west.

That, or some Chinese millionaire paid Gaijin off to fuck with Japanese mains.

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Not a political game !

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I mean the fact that the decision seemed to have changed after the Chinese interview would likely suggest this to be a likely reasoning…

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That’s the great thing about my perspective.
I’m a 10 tech tree player that wants Japan AND China to be given respect, I’m grinding China as we speak, currently enjoying BR 8 in tech tree vehicles, as well as having a number of premiums I enjoy.
I have China’s air tree completed.

I have NOTHING but love for China’s vehicles, and respect for IRL China’s cultures.

So yeah, I want China to have sub-trees, just not one that obviously takes options away from Japan that DO NOT fill holes in China.

It’s one thing to get a subtree that does not fill holes, its another to take a sub tree from a tech tree that needs holes filled by Singapore OR South Korea to put in a tech tree where no holes are filled.
South Korea will not fill BR holes in America.
Singapore will not fill BR holes in China.

So at least ONE of them has to go to Japan, and ideally it’s Singapore.

And no, Thailand doesn’t fill the holes that South Korea or Singapore fill.

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Based on the famous quote by Clausewitz

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vt4 vt5 vn17 625e m1a2t mirage2000 fck1 z10me…many are waiting for joining to the game. and i am still waiting for vt4a1, z10 rwr, f16mlu and other many fixing.
why introduce a l2a4 in a sudden. if it’s a l2a4sg. it may help. but a l2a4? it’s just gonna be the only 10.7 in China TT and helps nothing.

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There’s making a political statement, and then there is willfully ignoring the modern geopolitical landscape in a game about adding in modern military vehicles. I don’t expect Gaijin to come up with a several page long thesis regarding SEA politics, but I do expect them to consider the geopolitical landscape of the modern day when it is relevant, such as with subtrees.

A South Korean subtree in Japan will never happen. It’s a controversy waiting to happen, and the two nations have so little in common you may as well give Japan a Brazilian or Turkish subtree, especially if you want to start arguing for S. Korean subtree on the basis of gameplay.

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