Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

Yeah, closest to the Roland 1/3 in performance than anything else ingame.

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Honestly, guys, I’d love to see the new Chinese planes, and some small toys like the JL-9 or JL-10 or something.

We know.

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Both “maneuverability” and “speed”???

Yes, its one of the earliest self-propelled SAM’s made

dont know about maneuverability but they are quite slow

Okay, maybe I will stick with the Otomatic XD

Is it possible for Germany to get a new strong CAS? This could make my Boxer sell a little better :P

Until the Typhoon T2 bl 10 comes, the best we can get is the Tornado ASSTA3.1, which is barely better than the ASSTA1.

Just took a look at the stats on wikipédia (I know that’s not the most credible source)

But the 9K33M3 doesn’t seem all that bad:

  • 10-12 km range
  • 1020 m/s (mach 2.9)
  • 20G max overload

It’s def way worse than the VT 1 but not as much as I expected

Nice. Not every tree needs every single thing. Hope it gets delayed for an infinite period

its range is 15km

No, it’s 10 km.

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This document is from RF Ministry of Defense website.
https://mil.ru/files/files/pvo105/5-osa-ttx.pdf

lol
Too much wikipedia in it)
Even proposed modernization AKM1 had only 700 m/s, while for AKM it’s 500 m/s.

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The ballistics range is technically up to 15km, but the launcher can only guide it up to 10.

it’s target speed, not missile speed, 500 is too slow for a SAM

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if you look at Wikipedia the chances that you actually find the stats for the version we’re looking here are near zero

if you check the Wikipedia stats for the MiG-21 you’ll find they say it had R-73 and R-77 which isn’t quite right but not really wrong either

the leak had an earlier missile than the one Wikipedia lists

Nope, it’s missile speed. Also Roland 2 is 500 m/s as well, Roland 3 is 570 m/s.

you can’t reach a 500m/s target with a 500m/s missile, isn’t it?
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Hmmm… yeah. Although this document tells 500 m/s for missile.
https://mil.ru/files/files/pvo105/5-osa-ttx.pdf

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Idk