Major Update "Firebirds" - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 2)

It is very interesting for sure, but aren’t artillery supposed to operate some distance from the front line so that they won’t see opposing tanks directly?

Something has to have gone very wrong for those APFSDS to be needed, I think

supposed to doesn’t help you a lot when someone does break through

that’s why most SPAAs have self defence ammunition like HEAT-FS or APFSDS shells

Uh, take it easy, I found it on public reports, from 2018

We don’t know much about it, but we found it in official public reports

PLZ-05 is certainly interesting. Didnt expect China to be the one getting the first non-premium Vidar tier Artillery

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Panzerhaubitze fans in shambles 🙂🙃

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Yes, I thought it would be PZH2000 or 2S19 or something

as far as the leaks go there is only one red flag and that is the F-117 nighthawk

Now I’m not worried about what this plane will do to the game state (in the sense of being P2W). It’s a rather unimposing and unimpressive stealth aircraft, with a whopping 2 guided bombs and nothing else really going for it.

But that also is why it’s a massive red flag. This aircraft especially as a Squadron/Premium vehicle will DESTROY the matchmaking at a BR unless it’s hard limited in how many can be in a match, because much like the first Arado, this plane can’t kill other planes. (and hell it can barely do ground strike in ARB)

This plane will be a nightmare to spade. But it’s also probably the best way Gaijin can dip their toes into stealth jets without burning down the entire game.

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it’s sub sonic and carries 2 bombs, Regular or guided

it can’t be above 9.0, it’ll likely be much lower even

I’d say 7.7 is on the table

at this BR Stealth doesn’t matter at all

I think it will get early gbu or bomb stock and have gbu-24 and 27 as modifications

Yup.

Victory in ARB will basically boil down to which team has fewer of the spooky dorito

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7.7 ARB, 12.0 ground, 13.0 sim

Most cooked plane mm

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12.0 ground?

are you sure about that? it’s only 2 GBUS and nothing else

it’s not like a pantsir wouldn’t shoot it out the sky upon spawning either

I just really really like F-15, all of them. The dark grey is by far the best f15 paint job though

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I mean it can get gbu27 but idk how much of a advantage that is. Maybe 11.7 with AIM? Or 11.3

I can’t imagine it being viable in ARB at any point. Sure, you can’t get locked by radar, but that doesn’t stop guns from hitting you.

It would be cool if it were added, but I don’t think it would be a good addition.

It has lower RCS than a bird apparently, so I don’t think it will show up on radar until you open the bomb bays

I would make a case saying the Black Widow would’ve been a decent candidate for first stealth jet… given that it’s A2A component is (all things considered) nothing impressive by the current game state (4 120s + 2 9s)

Not really? It only has a paltry ordinance, no A2A capabilities, sub-par subsonic flight performance, and no countermeasures. It should be fine somewhere between 7.7 and 9.0.

Naturally it’s THALES with more goofy stuff.

The point of AESA is multiband switching between individual nodes. PESA is unable to because the entire array is driven by a single controller unless they use a butler matrix.

Like I said it’s probably a misnomer or marketing verbage like how things such as Khinzal/Iskander are called “hypersonic” which is technically true since all ballistic missiles since the V-2 are, but in reality the term hypersonic is intended towards maneuvering payloads such as the DF-17.