Major Update “Firebirds” — DEV Server Changelog (25.10.2024) - Dev Server is closed

[MokaMoki]

@TheArcticFoxxo

What equal counterpart does any nation in the world have? China is the only other with a similar vehicle, and that hit production this decade.
America trashed its SPAAGMs, with the declination of the ADATS and a refusal to pursue the AGDS.

MokaMoki:

If no nation has an equivalent, then it doesn’t need to come to the game. Or, it can be artificially nerfed like how the Brimstones are. Why allow only one SPAA to exist that has the capability to lock an enemy aircraft the moment it spawns.

Everything else has already been covered. The change to the Leopards just wasn’t needed. The RWR change was just something that wasn’t needed. And if it was a means to buff SPAA, then that should be communicated. Russia still didn’t need another high tier SPAA. Its existing lineup is still far better than what everyone else has.

[BroomstickDF]

Why is the 9M33M3 missile in game called the 9M33A3, and why does it lack 4.7km of range?

[BroomstickDF]

@TheArcticFoxxo

What equal counterpart does any nation in the world have? China is the only other with a similar vehicle, and that hit production this decade.
America trashed its SPAAGMs, with the declination of the ADATS and a refusal to pursue the AGDS.

The SLAMRAAM is the most likely item to be added, likely with nerfed capabilities such as AIM-9Ms instead of the AIM-9X and AIM-120Bs instead of the AIM-120C.

[MokaMoki]

Still not getting the logic to adding an AESA system to a Russian helicopter and not the F-15 that also had it.

“Maybe it’s to test it before wider implementation” and “It’s going on something that people will probably not even use” do not mix.

[BroomstickDF]

F-15 only had it on select radar sets, such as the AN/APG-63(V)3. The AN/APG-70s were and still are used.

Also, the MIl-8AMTSH Radar is not even a real AESA in-game with a rather horrid scan speed.

[KhorneFlakez1337]

Welcome to the club, buddy.

Balancing the underperforming vehicles and creating unique models is too much work (unless it’s for the US or USSR, of course), so everyone just gets copy paste instead

[BroomstickDF]

@markrus45

Please don’t add Leos to France
Just add original French vehicles, nations became less unique because of changes like this, it’s just slop now…

Subtrees from the beginning were just a mistake and a horrid idea as a stopgap way to fill up trees before modern aircraft/tanks. Tanks and aircraft should be given to their respective export nations (ie. Finnish Leos to Germany, Finnish T-series to Russia.)

[_Renzo]

@MokaMoki

and not the F-15 that also had it.

It’s called balance, you wouldn’t get it.

The F-15E should get it’s -229 engine along with the 15I getting some standoff options, they don’t need more at the moment.

[BroomstickDF]

F-15E should also get the AGM-130

[TheArcticFoxxo]

@MokaMoki

If no nation has an equivalent, then it doesn’t need to come to the game.

Then what’s the point in even trying to suggest unique vehicles?

Better yet, what’s the point in adding different missile types? Boost/Sustain motors clearly have no place in the game when other nations don’t have an equal. The F-14 might as well be removed at this point.

@MokaMoki

Why allow only one SPAA to exist that has the capability to lock an enemy aircraft the moment it spawns.

Effectively all SPAA in the game can lock aircraft that just spawned? Hell, my 8.3 SPAAG can do it with ease. Even the AMX-30 DCA can.

@MokaMoki

The change to the Leopards just wasn’t needed.

Eh, would be far better if they gave it the ability to lower the gun with the stabilizer off.

@MokaMoki

The RWR change was just something that wasn’t needed.

An unrealistic aspect of an aircraft’s defense suite that was fixed… Wasn’t needed?

@MokaMoki

And if it was a means to buff SPAA, then that should be communicated.

Why? It being communicated or not doesn’t change the outcome.

@MokaMoki

Russia still didn’t need another high tier SPAA.

You’re right, every nation BUT the USSR should receive the Soviet SPAA instead.
Why are you allowed to form ideas at this point?

@MokaMoki

Its existing lineup is still far better than what everyone else has.

Hence why 3 other nations are receiving an SPAA that could put them all on equal grounds.

[TheArcticFoxxo]

@BroomstickDF

The SLAMRAAM is the most likely item to be added, likely with nerfed capabilities such as AIM-9Ms instead of the AIM-9X and AIM-120Bs instead of the AIM-120C.

Would be a great addition, though I feel the SLAMRAAM would be the perfect place to start AIM-9X implementation. Reduced range due to a burn starting from a stop, and a nice place to begin IIR implementation and American thrust vectoring missiles.

[TheArcticFoxxo]

@BroomstickDF

Also, the MIl-8AMTSH Radar is not even a real AESA in-game with a rather horrid scan speed.

Granted it was just added. I’d imagine it would be tweaked HEAVILY, as even the Su-34’s PESA it barely useable in ACM mode.

[somebody_Else]

Its already been renamed to 9M33M3 in the datamines.

And its not missing 4.7km, the launcher can’t guide the missile beyond ~10km.

[TheArcticFoxxo]

@somebody_Else

Its already been renamed to 9M33M3 in the datamines.

Screw the datamines, hop into the dev server and have a look for yourself xD

[BroomstickDF]

Oh shit, they denied my bug post about it and then proceeded to rename it lmaoooo

[Morvran]

In the tornado, I never did as it couldn’t detect a Pantsir

[KhorneFlakez1337]

The Tornado can detect the Pantsir tho

[Morvran]

Src only, not lock

[kitchkitch26]

GBU-49 In the files, what’s the difference?

[_Renzo]

From what I found they are one of those laser + gps guided bombs that are also new on the Tornado Gr.4 iirc.