If India ever gets added it should be as another English sub tree
Got your stuff in there plus a few extra!
Hope the fuller tree makes more sense, plus theres still more coming!
If theres anything else just let me know!
I like the clean and concise layout of the tech tree. Given that India has already developed their own equipment, it makes sense that they would deserve a place in WT.
However, as someone already pointed out, the current proposal would needs more unique addition (like Indian-made modification) to make it stand out more and offers something worth playing.
Also, I think you need to separate the SPG/TD branch from the SPAA/SAM branch, because that would not make logical sense otherwise unless some of these are dual-purposes like ADATS.
Other than that, I will give +1 for the potential, and I hope that this will be the starting point for people to looking into the Indian arms industry and find something new.
Just done a bit of digging and found this interesting Indian SPG.
This is the M-46 Catapult, a 130 mm SPG based on a lengthened hull of Vijayanta tanks. The gun is the 130 mm M-46. The SPG has entered service in 1981 and decommissioned recently in 2021.
I think this would make a nice gap filler between the Abbot and the Vajra.
I’d be down for an independent India tree but there’s quite a bit of stuff to recommend changing. I’d remove Rank III and focus on creating a lineup there. Here is a design of mine (that’s outdated right now) that if you want, you can take from. You’re going to need copy and paste in it. It’s inevitable.
- Notes:
- BMP-2 and BMP-2 Sarath was a error on my part. It’s supposed to be the standard variant and the variant that focuses on the thermal imager modernization.
- Also curious on this BMP-2 Sarath upgrade that features two ATGM’s on the mount instead of the singular.
- Mine is missing the Atharva and some SPG’s so +1 to you on that.
- Zorawar could be bumped to 10.7.
- Disregard T-90MS as the vehicle has not been accepted into service, nor delivered. India procured funds in 2019 for it however, nothing has evolved from the deal since.
- BMP-2 and BMP-2 Sarath was a error on my part. It’s supposed to be the standard variant and the variant that focuses on the thermal imager modernization.
Looks better now! Still missing the T-90MS which would bolster the 11.3-11.7 lineup but otherwise it’s a nice suggestion!
Curiously, what is going on with India’s acquisition of the T-90MS? I haven’t heard anything on them receiving any.
I was under the impression they already had them, but I just checked and maybe they haven’t actually… A lot of stuff seems to say they approved the deal a couple years ago and wanted them produced soon but none seem to have appeared. Maybe the war in Ukraine is slowing things down?
That’s what I’m thinking. I think with the other vehicles, both experimental and regular, it will be fine without the T-90MS.
Only issue is that 10.3 is the second highest BR for an MBT after the Arjun Mk 1A, and to my knowledge there aren’t any other options other than the T-90MS. I know that they’re working on a new MBT but who knows when it’ll be revealed.
That’s fair, I agree. I think over time we’ll see options develop for top rank. They have several projects going on. The new hybrid Atharva is a testament to that being a cost effective way to upgrade T-72’s. Maybe they’ll develop the T-90S and Atharva further by incorporating Kachan armor to them or something. New ammo too. I know there T-90S is going through a modernization right now as well. One of them could lead to an indigenous upgrade of the vehicle that could be radically different/better and sit at top instead of the Tagil since the Tagil is MIA for the foreseeable future.
There was also a plan to install Trophy APS to T-90S. I wonder what happened to that.
One vehicle that could be added to that tech tree you made would be the “OFB 105 mm SPG”.
It is a 105mm howitzer in a turret mounted on a license built hull of a BMP-2.
I saw these while researching and considered adding them, but arent they casemate?
If so it would be difficult to add and play since especially it’ll only carry HE.
From what ive found, they did begin to recieve a handful back in 09’ but idk whats happening now, likely their “Special Military Operation” having them distracted from exporting:
I’ll add it in soon.
How did i miss the SAMARs lol, ill add em
According to the source I linked, the gun has a fairly limited traverse around 12.5 degrees to either side. Though it can also fire AP shell.
So I think this will be a nice addition as a more traditional casemate TD.
India does not have T-90MS, this is a myth
There is a couple of Shermans that is missing that could be added as well as the PT-76B at Tier IV