To be fair, Israel has been in the game for years now and has had time to grow, again it had started with 20 vehicles, now has dozens of vehicles and a variety of trees, and is still missing the majority of its light tanks and APCs, however still struggles with repeat vehicles like the Magachs, Shot Kals, and Merkavas, and I believe that india has a langer unique tree than israel.
The TT in the suggestion is just a example starter TT, at a size that could be added within a major update, and does not show a final size, as India still has dozens of other unique vehicles capable of being added (See post below yours for a handful).
As for Copy-pastes, this will be a problem, however I believe it can be remedied as some vehicles within the tree can be replaced by indegenous designs, however I do fall under the belief that vehicles that saw service or at-least heavy prototyping should enter the reasearch tree, while tech demonstrators and conceptual models should be premiums or event vehicles.
In addition to this, having india as a major nation would allow the better fitting of minor-nation sub trees such as in Indonesia and other tropical nations and other “One-Off” Vehicles, like the Lithuanian Vilkas or Norwegian VIDAR.
Except for the fact that over 80% of the Israel tech tree was added in 2 major updates back to back, and most of it is unique vehicles.
So yeah, this is a no.
It has less than half the unique vehicles Israel started with as well.
This is incomplete, there is not enough vehicles, objectively.
to be quite frankly i don’t know much about Indian vehicles, but there’s barely any line up in this concept, it lacks vehicles, it also doesn’t has 4 minimum lines so yeah it’s quite trash was of right now.
i mean unless for your 6.3 you want to play only AMX-13, PT-76 and abbot it is pretty sad was of right now.
I Dont like to argue about copy-pasting since there’s alot of trees in this game that do it but 8 of the 21 vehicles are bring from another nations, 11 are upgraded which is okay i dont go agaisnt it and finally only 2 are totally national which can be unique in the game, in my perspective it lacks alot more of upgraded vehicles or national vehicles to form a entire new nation.
+1 though this needs a lot of work in fill in the gaps, not only that, a lot of vehicles are missing
I would love to see an Independent Indian Air TT since they have quite the extensive TT and unlike Israel has unique domestic designs that had production runs like the Kiran and Marut for example. Same goes for the Helicopter TT
Edit: Just found this on my pc which was a Indian Air TT would look like, or the very least my interpretation of it looks like. I made this at least 3 years ago. I’m probably going to do a more up to date version of this but i cannot entirely guarantee it
I like the clean and concise layout of the tech tree. Given that India has already developed their own equipment, it makes sense that they would deserve a place in WT.
However, as someone already pointed out, the current proposal would needs more unique addition (like Indian-made modification) to make it stand out more and offers something worth playing.
Also, I think you need to separate the SPG/TD branch from the SPAA/SAM branch, because that would not make logical sense otherwise unless some of these are dual-purposes like ADATS.
Other than that, I will give +1 for the potential, and I hope that this will be the starting point for people to looking into the Indian arms industry and find something new.
Just done a bit of digging and found this interesting Indian SPG.
This is the M-46 Catapult, a 130 mm SPG based on a lengthened hull of Vijayanta tanks. The gun is the 130 mm M-46. The SPG has entered service in 1981 and decommissioned recently in 2021.
I think this would make a nice gap filler between the Abbot and the Vajra.
I’d be down for an independent India tree but there’s quite a bit of stuff to recommend changing. I’d remove Rank III and focus on creating a lineup there. Here is a design of mine (that’s outdated right now) that if you want, you can take from. You’re going to need copy and paste in it. It’s inevitable.
Notes:
BMP-2 and BMP-2 Sarath was a error on my part. It’s supposed to be the standard variant and the variant that focuses on the thermal imager modernization.
Also curious on this BMP-2 Sarath upgrade that features two ATGM’s on the mount instead of the singular.
Mine is missing the Atharva and some SPG’s so +1 to you on that.
Zorawar could be bumped to 10.7.
Disregard T-90MS as the vehicle has not been accepted into service, nor delivered. India procured funds in 2019 for it however, nothing has evolved from the deal since.
I was under the impression they already had them, but I just checked and maybe they haven’t actually… A lot of stuff seems to say they approved the deal a couple years ago and wanted them produced soon but none seem to have appeared. Maybe the war in Ukraine is slowing things down?
Only issue is that 10.3 is the second highest BR for an MBT after the Arjun Mk 1A, and to my knowledge there aren’t any other options other than the T-90MS. I know that they’re working on a new MBT but who knows when it’ll be revealed.
That’s fair, I agree. I think over time we’ll see options develop for top rank. They have several projects going on. The new hybrid Atharva is a testament to that being a cost effective way to upgrade T-72’s. Maybe they’ll develop the T-90S and Atharva further by incorporating Kachan armor to them or something. New ammo too. I know there T-90S is going through a modernization right now as well. One of them could lead to an indigenous upgrade of the vehicle that could be radically different/better and sit at top instead of the Tagil since the Tagil is MIA for the foreseeable future.
One vehicle that could be added to that tech tree you made would be the “OFB 105 mm SPG”.
It is a 105mm howitzer in a turret mounted on a license built hull of a BMP-2.
From what ive found, they did begin to recieve a handful back in 09’ but idk whats happening now, likely their “Special Military Operation” having them distracted from exporting:
