Hyrikul
December 7, 2023, 1:40pm
7279
Gripen gonna be similar to the 2000-5F, and even slightly better to turnrate thanks to canards i think. And more missiles too.
So people saying it’s DoA are underestimating the Gripen.
And people who was waiting for it to be the new meta plane overestimating it.
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The thing is its not possivle. Thats how aviation is, the trailer alluded to it. Its an arms race. The balance shifts to one side or the other for a little historically theres no way to make that perfect with the vehicles they have to choose each generation.
Shay
December 7, 2023, 1:41pm
7281
The Su-27 will be the true meta defining plane.
Shay
December 7, 2023, 1:41pm
7282
Which is why I said roughly.
DevilO6
December 7, 2023, 1:41pm
7283
@Smin1080p i need to know this.
The Cr3 (p) is the one from the 2019, and will not be changed in the future to match the prototype that is/was supposed to come out by the end of this year, right?
I need to know this, so i can know if i should get some sources ready or no
asd072
December 7, 2023, 1:41pm
7284
If it gets all the missiles, which might be not true
Hyrikul
December 7, 2023, 1:41pm
7285
If Gaijin goes full yak141 treatment with the M4K (not gonna happen) and give it 14 magics2/530D, it could slap hard too :p
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Shay
December 7, 2023, 1:42pm
7286
It had all ten in the teaser, so there’s no reason to think it won’t.
I do think people underestimating the Eagle though.
Shay
December 7, 2023, 1:42pm
7288
I’m hoping for at least ten so it can be kinda comparable to the Su-27, but I’m not holding my breath.
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Shay
December 7, 2023, 1:43pm
7289
It’s an asymmetrical equivalent to the Su-27, yes.
asd072
December 7, 2023, 1:43pm
7290
Hmm, i’ve seen only 6, in what part it had 10? Looks like I missed it
02ded
December 7, 2023, 1:43pm
7291
how so? r27ers will be defeated by current meta, hugging the ground
He will take the F-15 for 2 mins, take off fire 2 missiles, miss with 2 of them, show unfinished cockpit, then crash and leave test drive.
me goes back to bed because i am tired
gaijin proceeds to release 2 dev blogs in under 4 hours one being the challenger 3
what does this mean
Shay
December 7, 2023, 1:43pm
7294
When it showed the underside soon after it was first shown.
If there is really going to be a very clear meta with no alternatives I won’t be touching the top tier this update
_Renzo
December 7, 2023, 1:44pm
7297
Like I said, I would be pefectly happy with an F-15A with AIM-9M and AIM-7M (I don’t think AIM-9L cut it for the direct counterpart of an Su-27 with ER, ET and R-73).
However I also like to theorize.
Hyrikul
December 7, 2023, 1:44pm
7298
I wonder between Su27 and M4K wich is gonna be the best at dogfight.
I guess Su27 but i think the M4K can still give it hard time.
TwR > 1.23 (i’ve read 1.4 sometime, but not sure at all), big delta, slats, canards…
Perhaps like the actual meta, Mirage 2000 win on the first turn, but lost if we enter more turns fights.