M829A3 — Why Now?

I’m trying to understand Gaijin’s logic. Why did you decide to introduce a round designed to defeat Kontakt-5 armor now? Why not six years ago when tanks equipped with Kontakt-5 were first added to the game?

And you’re giving this round to an Abrams that will almost certainly never face tanks equipped with Kontakt-5. What’s the logic behind that?

It would have made much more sense to introduce the M829A3 for the U.S. five years ago, and introduce the M829A4 today instead.

Besides, this round is practically ineffective against Relikt ERA.

And how long are we supposed to wait for the M829A4? The round that was specifically developed to defeat Relikt ERA. Another 5–6 years?

And by the time it’s finally added, it’ll be completely useless.

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Gaijin: We beleive any round that can defeat Relikt is a marketing lie and so wont be implemented.

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Premium T-80U is one of the most played vehicles at top tier.

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Not really, because the Abrams has been performing really well so there was absolutely no need for it.

Why now? Well they probably wanted to add something that gave the US SEPv3 a slight edge over the Australian one. However they kind of killed any hype for the SEPv3 by giving all the 12.7 Abrams M829A3.

I can understand giving it to both the SEPv3 and M1A2 trophy, but they shot themselfs in the foot by also giving M829A3 to the SEPv1 and SEPv2.

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For 2–3 years, the U.S. has been performing poorly on the ground—especially after the introduction of Relikt and spall liners. So why wasn’t it added back then? And why is this shell not available to all M1A1 tanks? Do they have a different gun or something?

Right now, the U.S. has the worst statistics, second only to Germany. And giving them such a nerfed tank and a limited shell feels like mockery.

T-80BVM and T-90M.

The Abrams has been consistently one of the best tanks at top tier lol. Far better than stuff like the T-90M that you keep overhyping.

Probably because they are 11.7-12.0 and are already laughably undertiered as is.

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You know who doesn’t overestimate the T-90M? Those who play it. I don’t understand how people who play such powerful tanks can lose.

What do you mean?

Just saying that M1s will see a lot of action against K5 tanks.

Because they aren’t as powerful as you may think ?

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You’re getting a better round that you:
A. don’t really need
B. is being upgraded from the second best round to, the second best round

We seriously crashing out about this man?

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T-90M and powerful…

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I have played it. It’s just not good enough for me to enjoy it.

Why play such a limiting tank like the T-90M when I can play the considerably better and considerably more fun Abrams?

Exactly what I typed.

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It’s interesting how when Gaijin introduced the Pantsir-S1, they didn’t think about whether aviation could counter it. Or when they introduced the Kh-38MT, did they consider whether the ADATS could handle that missile? Or when they added the BMPT Terminator, did Gaijin think about the players who would be playing against it?

Yet somehow, when it comes to the U.S. or any other nation, the immediate concern is whether Soviet players will be able to deal with it.

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Has nothing to do with what I’ve said to you.

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BMPT is literally PUMA 2.0

I’m pretty sure the S1 is in the same boat


Just gonna leave this here

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The game is dev by russians, end of story, nothing to do

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Because ammo is matter of decision and balance, M1A2 Abrams have (on the Live Server) have the third penetrator with highest values in milimeter? That’s the best reason I can find. That’s applied to every nation in-game if you’re trying to emplain Russian bias in this discussion, why isn’t 3BM44M given as top round to lower battle rating Russian and late Soviet vehicles, a 3BM42 modernization made to defeat NATO armor? It’s been 6 years since the M1A2 Abrams has been implemented in War Thunder.

I play T-90M, is my favourite tank in Soviet Union ground top tier because it has armor and that’s about it; You add anti-ERA properties to the game and you entire remove the point of the vehicle. Firepower? Decent, not terrible; Mobility? We have no information on T-90M2, T-90M don’t have such thing. But anyways, I really want the game to be realistic so maybe anti-ERA should be a thing.

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Uhh, firepower is objectively terrible, one of the worst top tier rounds paired with the longest top tier reload

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Because it’s enough already.

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Thats what happens when you still use shitty autoloader designs from 60’s.

They reached a point where neither carousel nor loading mechanism can handle bigger shells which further proves that having bigger caliber doesn’t equal bein better.