M47 Patton

Trees are and should be a representation of the country’s military, not military industrial complex, allowing for a more historical and realistic game and gameplay. Prototypes are good and all as “what if” vehicles but should never come at the expense of vehicles actually used in mass service.

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Clearly we are at disagreement then, the type of game War Thunder is does not really encourage accurate representation of each armed force, most prototypes and experimental vehicles can easily fill niches usually occupied by copy paste, and the addition of any copies are guaranteed to muddy the waters when it comes to originality.

M47 “OTO” if you mean the one without engine change would be a twin of M47 105/55, maybe even at higher br than 105/55 as it is already very good vehicle after vertical limits change. It won’t replace regular M47, which is 7.3 tank, plus for some people even such modification can be considered copypaste. Astra can be an interesting alternative, but we need more information about it.
And honestly I don’t care about copypaste anymore, more vehicles TT has is better. Domestic vehicles are preferred of course, but I’m fine with something to grind and put into setup without uptiering stuff. For example I would like to see Lancia 3Ro 90/53 at 4.0 instead of M44, but M44 is better than not getting anything at all. Plus maybe for me it isn’t that important vehicle since I have both Zrinyi I and Breda 52, but for those who only have Turan III and StuG, it can be a nice addition to line-up.
Anyway imao copypaste discussion is too old.

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cringe

This has got to be the most numerous tank ever in the history of italy, right?
It should be in game already!

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No, we do not need more copy paste ingame.

Depends. For a specific vehicle model, yes. For a vehicle family, no, it’d be surpassed by the L3 and M11/13/14/15, depending on what production estimate you take for the M15 and if you consider the M11 part of the same family (I wouldn’t, and if we did we’d probably have to take into account the 270 M26s which puts the M47 back on top)

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1,200 L3/33; 1,300 L3/35 = 2500 units produced

740 M13/40, 333 M15 (alleged), 100 M11, 744 M14 = 1917 units produced

M47 = 2600 units

Using both the suggestion and wikipedia sources

I think the entire m47 family surpasses every single other tank type and family

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Whoops yep I was thinking 1800 for some reason

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