M39-T160 cannons are terrible (no, it's not 2020 anymore, grow past that era)

Machinery of War Discussion
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M39 and T160 are terrible guns right now and actually have been terrible for the last two years after the insane drag nerf (coming out at 1010 meters per second just to drop to 550 meters per second after just a second of flight time) and the crazy damage nerf to most 20mm’s.
This means that the only good things that F-5s had has been gone for almost 2 years
I request the F-5C to be moved to 10.0 without flares and probably no missiles either (no, the f-5c flight model does not overperform, learn to use your superior thrust weight ratio against it)
Even the four cannons of the f101c deliver white text on dead stalled enemies.

I will take a GSh23L any day over the M39 cannon.

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Are we seriously back to this?

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we’ll be so back until the problem is gone babe

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Yes the F-5 flight models are overperforming. They’re overpowered. Remove the flares and keep them at 10.7

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Will you stop creating topics about F-5C again and again and again and again and again?

I am seriously tired of duplicate topics

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Choose one, remove flares at 10.0 or keep it at 10.7 with m39 buff
You can’t justify something that the su25 can beat by simply going up or get outrated by a mig21smt to stay at 10.7 WITHOUT flares.

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topic is about m39s, t160s and even vulcan m61s being L tier. Highest rate of fire, lowest damage output.

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You’re just lying at this point lol. The F-5C outrates a Hunter let alone a MiG-21. Edit: you have a 3 KD in the F-5C. How is this “bad”

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I also have between 3 and 4kd on the f-5e, the sea fury, the n1k’s and the alpha jets, are they good aircraft? Not at all. Defyn has the highest KD on the f84g and it’s a doggy doo doo jet. Just because someone locks in with high skill ceiling aircraft to get good performance doesn’t mean the plane is good. This is literally why there’s so many overtiered planes played by four people that happen to be very good pushing the trend average to the orbit of Neptune. This is why the Sea Fury which is a 3.7 performance airframe is at 5.7, because there’s like 100 people that play it religiously and who all of them score good, while the p51h5 is played by a hundred thousand people of which only a thousand score positive.
The F-5 was busted back in the day when it was able to shoot it’s own bomb to troll people while still having a good enough airframe condition to curbstomp the rest of the lobby as it happened when I got it, where i’d get killed by allied a10’s most of the time.
Then all guns got a drag nerf, and then m39s and vulcan got nerfed the hardest along aden with realshatter. They became good again a few months ago for a week then they nerfed them once again.

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Bait

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Holy bait. Sure the Sea Fury is ok at best, a tad underpowered, but the F-5E, N1Ks, and Alpha jets are amazing aircraft. What are you on because I need some of that

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“help i cant aim in my overpowered gun fighter”

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Bollocks. You are lying.

You wrote this topic because you want to spam another F-5 topic in this forum.

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Please stop making the same Topic.
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