This is not a “lower the M26 BR NOW!” thread or something like that but I would like to know why it is at 6.7. I mean its the same BR as the T26e5, the T26e1-1 (which should be called the T26e4 but is mistakenly called the T26e1-1 due to a prototype being called that), the T34, the T30, and only 0.3 below the T29.
Basically all of these tanks are simply better than the M26, with either better armor, better guns, or both at once. And honestly it’s not like the Sherman vs. Sherman jumbo where armor is traded for speed. The M26 has very little armor for its BR, it has very little mobility compared to what comes before it as well as it having roughly equal mobility to the other members of the Pershing family and T series prototypes, and it has a relatively weak gun compared to the long 90mm, 120mm of the T34, the 105mm of the T29, and the 155mm of the T30.
Personally I would lower the BR to 6.3 but that’s just a personal opinion. Please state your thoughts below and remember to keep it civil.
Yes, let the poor soul fight a Pershing in downtiers with vastly superior armor compared and one of the best cannons at its BR range, why not.
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Cause people got good with APCR and while its APHE does one-shot things for players that face tanks that allow it to pen, APCR pens more targets including IS-4M.
So with the armor being the primary difference between M26 and T26E5, you have a slight mobility advantage in the M26 itself allowing players to use its mobility buff to get around other tanks easier.
The pershing is terrifying in a downtier but free food in uptiers.
The cause: BR compression
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So basically what you’re saying is the reason the M26 kind of sucks is compression?
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For the most part. APCR is also abysmal but the main issue is that you can face things like the conqueror or things with ATGMs.
its so bad that when I’m in a conqueror and I see pershings I let them get a shot at me before executing them because its not going through lmao
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At 6.3 it was fine, similar armor to the 76 Jumbo but at the cost of reload, gun stabilizer/handling among other things.
I definitely didn’t give the 90mm as much credit as it deserves as it is a good gun, but the main 2 rounds it used are severely gimped in war thunder. As you mentioned M304 is quite sad to use as APCR is heavily nerfed compared to its real life counterparts. In real life US APCR had MASSIVE cores compared to their foreign equivalents, and did about as much damage as full-bore rounds while having much more penetration, with the main drawback in that they only had maybe a dozen per platoon per month. And T33 shot should realistically penetrate a panther’s UFP up to about 500m as long as it’s directly facing the shooter. Maybe if they fixed these rounds i’d be okay with the M26 staying at 6.7. But until they fix T33 and American HVAP in general it will continue to be an issue.
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Love how the Panther is a better tank than the M26, aside from a few things like reverse speed. But that’s my opinion.
It’s not even that the prototype was called that.
The Super Pershing as we know it was built using the first T26E1 pilot. Which just so happened to have T26E1-1 written on the turret.
T26E1 Pilot No.1 pictures
Here’s the tank in it’s Super Pershing configuration. Note that T26E1-1 is written on the turret because they hadn’t removed the paint.
However, note that this paint was there before the modifications to turn this tank into the Super Pershing. You can see it here where it has a normal 90 mm and lacks the recoil springs yet it still has T26E1-1 on the turret. This is, once again, because it was the first pilot of the T26E1 experimental tanks.
However, even for this tank, T26E1-1 is not a correct name. It’s just T26E1, or T26E1 Pilot No.1.
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It’d be better off if the Super Pershing was a premium rather than the M26E1, considering the Super Pershing was a one off unique vehicle.
Yea I like bullying people in WT, its why the fox is my most used vehicle, great at taking advantage of skill issues
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APCR and APDS are really gimped its a shame
Oh yeah don’t even get me started on M93, which is missing over 30mm of flat pen at 0m. They literally took its flat penetration at 500m and made that it’s point-blank penetration. It should have 223mm instead of 190mm.
But you see, that would make it so 76mm armed Shermans could frontally penetrate a Tiger 2 (H)’s turret face, and that’s just not allowed. /S
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Yea I used APCR once. Shot 15 shells and got 15 shatters in a row. Will not play it ever again
Man, I love sending a hyper-velocity tungsten carbide slug inches over a Panther’s gunner, and he just turns into a yellow gummy bear
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how does apcr even shattered
like isnt it tungsten one of the densest material? how does something shattered so easily(might be an idiot for this but i wanna know)
its been years and many people want to make apcr historically accurate but its just not