M1a2s at top tier

I take acknowledged bug reports more seriously rather then your claims.

Until then we’re just waiting Gaijin’s answer for that.

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“presumably” Okay, no.
“Internal spall liner” That’s fundamentally not a spall liner.

If you can recall then you might be able to provide said document.

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Still want my tank to be as accurate as possible even while it’s being bombed from the stratosphere.

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You take bug reports seriously? Sorry to hear about that. But there’s no evidence that the M1 has a spall liner. There’s M1s you can actively get into and identify a spall liner, which is non existent.

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There is no hard requirement that says a spall liner can’t be integrated. You’re just coping and trying to play semantics where there are none to even play.

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Yea because unlike your empty claims they contain confirmed informations for most of the time.

Meanwhile you just showed me nothing but claiming Abrams doesnt have any Spall Liners.

Its nice to see that ignorant people like you doesnt even bother to check what kind of information bug reports contains.

No wonder why you are so clueless, your ignorance blinds you heavily.

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The concept of a spall liner is a method of catching armor fragments from spalling armor. If your liner is inside that armor then it’s apart of the armor array. That’s fundamentally not a spall liner.

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You are the one claiming it does have a spall liner, I’m not the one that is to bear the burden of proof.

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Didn’t they fix that a few updates ago? I remember them being quieter than they used to be.

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Since reading seems to be very hard for you I will repeat myself.

There is no hard requirement that says a spall liner can’t be integrated. You’re just coping and trying to play semantics where there are none to even play.

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I didnt claimed anything, it seems you cant even read properly.

I said there is a possibility that Abrams might have Spall Liners and there is active bug report for that, best thing we can do is just back and wait for Gaijin’s answer for that.

I suggest read properly before making replies next time.

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I don’t think so? Doesn’t sound like it’s any different, personally.

When I get home, if someone doesn’t do it first!

We are studying it xd.

See, that’s the point; most of us do not intend to prove it has, or to give it ingame regardless of whether it has it in real life or not. It is a complex matter that should be subject to impartial study, no baseless claims, be it in favour or against them.

I feel like they messed around with engine noises.

The T-80UD for some reason is absolutely deafening when nearby and can be heard from an insane distance it feels like.

I’d be curious if anyone has done proper testing on engine noise levels.

I revised the source I was referring to and it’s not what I recalled; it’s just the other source I mentioned talking about Kevlar spall liners, so disregard my previous comment.

See? I am not here to “prove at all costs” that it had a spall liner; I am here only to determine whether it has any form of spall protection or not. Otherwise, I wouldn’t be admitting that I mistook a source; rather, I would be fighting tooth and nail to shield myself behind that source claiming that the Abrams has Kevlar spall liners.

Because I know that, while it was proposed, these weren’t implemented, based on photographical evidence. So, when it comes to spall liners, the best thing we can do is investigate about the internal/integrated system reported.

We are not “US mains trying to make the Abrams invincible”; we are merely players who want this tank, just like any other, properly implemented ingame.


As of now, these are the Abrams-related issues that need addressing:

-Turret ring thickness and geometry (proven via photographical evidence).

-Underperforming turret side armor on SEP and SEPv2 (proven via primary sources).

-Wrong front fuel tank bulkhead thickness and missing geometries/plates.

-TUSK II not being removable from SEPv2.

-The case for SEPv2 and AIM’s improved hull armor, although this is not a 100% proven fact as the other matters due to its classified nature and would rather rely on well-educated guesstimations.

There’s also the hydraulic pump thing, but I haven’t studied it yet.

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What an amazing thread. Hey look, its the same few players popping in with nonsense per usual. Almost as of they get paid to do so. All this over discussions about helping the game be a little more balanced. Crazy times and this issue has been ongoing for far far far too long.

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Yes, they did fix the Abrams engine sound and gave the hstvl a new engine noise in the same update :)

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Huh. I haven’t noticed a difference, personally. Maybe it’s a " skill issue " for my ears lol.

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Ear issue, git gud

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